Wiggy helped the Giants walkoff with his boot on a potential double play grounder last night. He continues to be unproductive with runners on base as well.
Phillies learning why Wiggy is not a starter.
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I need to remind myself about this when I’m feeling discouraged about the 2012 Rockies…..Wiggy is no longer a Rockie! That’ll cheer me up.
That’s our favorite player there – Wiggy!
I’m going to play devil’s advocate here for a minute. Was Wiggy really that bad? I did a “who drives in the winning run” analysis last year, and Wiggy was among the team leaders. I can only remember one key hit from him all season (the 3-run double in Pittsburgh), but maybe he was the kind of guy who quietly contributed during a game’s less memorable moments. Look at Tulo for example; he did not have any walk-offs last year, and I remember him popping out about a million times with RISP, but they guy drove in 100 runs. No Wiggy is not Tulo, but maybe he deserves a break.
Okay, I’m done now. Don’t beat me up too bad for saying it.
Honestly, I think you’re being way, way too kind to Wigginton. I remember that early-season bases-clearing double, too, but his RISP numbers after that were horrendous. He was absolutely the last guy I wanted to see up in a key situation; there were times when he was batting behind Helton that I hoped Helton would put the ball in play, even if he made an out, just to avoid seeing another hopeless at-bat by Wigginton. I often think he may have had the worst-ever Rockies’ season for a semi-regular and even his .242 average looms better than he performed.
Ouch! lol
Wiggy was the king of the solo HR.
Dang Mike way to spoil Batgirl’s heavenly morning glow. Oops! Sedin is on the case. Never mind.
I watched that happen live and remember thinking I was so thankful wiggy wasn’t at 3rd for us anymore…and i do remember a ton of times last season he came up with RISP and failed pretty bad…it was extremely obvious…
Oh well, grass/fence/etc…
Wiggington’s can play a lot of positions, just none of them well. His best position is the same as Giambi’s. DH
“I often think he may have had the worst-ever Rockies’ season for a semi-regular…”
How quickly we forget Aaron Miles. My favorite: 2005 when he walked 8 times (usually batting 2nd!) in 347 plate appearances. Other candidates: Desi Relaford on the same team was actually worse, but he was so bad that the Rockies waived him in June. And there was a time that the lesser Luis Gonzalez was playing semi-regularly in rightfield. (He later got busted for steroids.) And JD Closser got the most plate appearances of any catcher that year.
Don’t get me wrong, Wiggy was awful. But when things aren’t going so well in Rockiesland I like to think back to how much worse it was just 7 years ago.
Shawn Chacon 2004, closer with the 7.11 ERA anyone? Dare I mention Benny Agbayani (my user name is a daily reminder to all of us about how bad things were) and his .205/.266/.350 line in 2002? There’s one constant in Rockiesland: the search for a veteran righthanded platoon player will always end in misery, from Benny to Ty to Jose Lopez … ahh, memories …
And Todd Greene was another “veteran righthanded power bat” acquisition. Just in case anyone forgot. My favorite moment of his career (later shown to be steroid-fueled too): Greene rounds 3rd and pulls a hammy on one of those tree trunk legs and drops like he’d been shot. No crawling home for Todd.
And Eli Marrero, the Jordan Pacheco “he gives us the flexibility to pinch run for our starting catcher,” 2006′s righthanded power bat off the bench. I’ll stop now.
My memory is Dustin Mohr. Pulled his hamstring (and went on DL) running out of the dugout to celebrate the walkoff. Every time he came to bat and I’m at Coors I yelled, “Mohr” strikeouts. He often heeded my advice. LOL.
RMH, I forgot all about Mohr. Great memory! That walk-off home plate celebration injury was a classic. The Hawaiian Curse of Agbayani will forever prevent O’Dowd from obtaining an acceptable righthanded hitting bench player.
Agree about Mohr; the guy was a joke, despite a decent number of homers. If he didn’t go yard, he usually didn’t make contact. For 2005, the team’s big offseason acquisitions were Mohr and Relaford. No need to guess how that season turned out.
Mohr’s injury came on Clint Barmes’ famed walk-off homer against Trevor Hoffman on Opening Day.
And Wigginton was absolutely atrocious: with the bases loaded, he was 1-for-16 with a couple of GIDP’s. Agree with Sedin—he was terrible on both sides of the ball.
Others on my all-time worst list: Denny Hocking, Darren Bragg, Mark Hutton, Greg Harris, Jorge Julio, BY Kim.
Chacon gets a pass from me, as the Rockies pretty much ruined his career. They took a young starter who’d made the All-Star team in 2003 and converted him to a closer. Sure, he had an awful season but he’d never pitched in relief before. And the success he suqsequently had with the Yankees was as a starter. He imploded later in Houston, but that’s a different story.
And the famed Barmes home run followed the game-tying two- out hit by none other than Aaron Miles. I may be wrong, but I don’t have a recollection of Miles being that bad, Aggy.
I remember that we had two NRIs that made the team for Opening Day 2007. One was Steve Finley but I can’t remember the other NRI. The fans were screaming to get rid of them and finally they were released like about two weeks apart about May/June. I hated those two; anyone remember who the other NRI was? He was probably an infielder and a right handed bat.
My favorite bench player was Mark Sweeney. Thought he had endless number of quality ABs with a little bit of power.
RMH—I believe the other NRI was John Mabry…a lefty-hitting outfielder who played some first base earlier in his career. I once saw him hit for the cycle against the Rockies as a member of the Cardinals.
Yup that was him that I was trying to remember.
While I am not the sabermetrics whiz that some of you are, I checked the 2011 RC (runs created) stats for several key Rockies, because that seemed like a worthy stat to start with. Wiggy doesn’t come out too well.
Columns are Player, PA, RC, RC/PA
Giambi
Columns are Player, PA, RC, RC/PA
Giambi 152 30 .197 (way to go Jason!)
Tulo 606 106 .175
CarGo 542 93 .172
Todd 491 80 .163
Smith 533 82 .154
Fowler 563 79 .140
Wiggy 446 53 .119 (ouch!)
EYJ 229 26 .114 (sorry Pooter)
Herrera 320 27 .084
Obviously I did not check the whole team. I just wanted to see the range between the RBI-men and the light hitters. Wiggy doesn’t look too good.
Iannetta 426 57 .134
Stewart 136 7 .051
Stewart (career) 1466 184 .126
Kit Pellow.
Miketober, love to see folks using the new metrics!
Bobby Estalella, Chris Stynes, Mark Bellhorn and Butch Huskey!!! Hahaha!!! Man it’s funny to remember the horrible players we had!
And Chris Stynes actually STARTED at 3B. That was after the great Todd Zeile left town…
… in the never-ending search for an adequate second baseman, O’Dowd went through Tony Womack and Mark Bellhorn for about half a dozen games each. What used to bother me (umm, still does) is how he’ll get an idea like that — “hey, Mark Bellhorn is available and he’d be better than what we have at [position],” then gives up on it almost immediately. As if the abilities of a Mark Bellhorn or Tony Womack were some kind of mystery after decade-long careers. And then to rub it in, Bellhorn has a career year the next season and wins the World Series with the Red Sox.