2015/16 Rox Hot Stove Phase I – Oct thru Winter Meetings

This little Rox loving community doesn’t always agree with one another, but I think one thing that we do all agree upon is that this coming offseason is critically important. We diverge after that. There are all sorts of thoughts/ideas/theories regarding exactly what the Rox should do this offseason. Mine are well documented. But regardless of what you think, this is the place where we should compile our offseason thoughts. I’m thinking we’ll ultimately need three Hot Stove threads. This first one, Phase I, is for October thru the Winter Meetings. Phase II will be post Winter Meetings until mid-February (pitchers and catchers report), and Phase III will be Spring Training.

Here are some key Phase I dates courtesy of ESPN:

Oct. 4 — MLB regular season ends
Oct. 6 — AL wild-card game (ESPN)
Oct. 7 — NL wild-card game
Oct. 8 — ALDS begins
Oct. 9 — NLDS begins
Oct. 16 — ALCS begins
Oct. 17 — NLCS begins
Oct. 27 — World Series Game 1 at AL ballpark
Nov. 4 — World Series Game 7 (if necessary)
Five days after WS — Free agency begins
Nov. 9-12 — GM meetings, Boca Raton, Fla.
Dec. 7-10 — Winter meetings, Nashville, Tenn.
Dec. 7 — Hall of Fame pre-integration era committee (through 1946) vote announced

I “think” the Rule 5 draft is at the end of the Winter Meetings (it was last year).

What I’ll be looking for in this first phase of the Hot Stove is what the Rox do to the 40 man roster. By most accounts, this is a “stocked” year for the Rule 5 draft. So not only do the Rox need to protect key rule 5 eligible guys within our organization, we also likely need an open spot for a selected player. Last year the Rox “shrewdly” selected Mark Canha and then flipped him to the A’s for Austin House (Canha had a really, really nice year for the A’s – House – not so much for the Rockies Farm).

Solely with the 40 man roster in mind, trading Cargo early makes sense. But the market for big fish historically takes awhile to develop, so this may not be possible.

A more likely scenario will be facing (hopefully) the harsh truth with our multitude of AAAA types like Wilin, Matzek, Brothers, Gurka, Herrera, etc. while simultaneously coming to grips with the sunk cost concept on guys like Logan and Reyes. Bottom line – the Rox suck, so there should be very few no-doubters on the 40-man.

Carry on gang!

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    • sdcarp

      October 4, 2015

      Well duh – the other thing I’ll be looking for is whether the Rox Fire WW…..or not. For the longest time, I was indifferent on this, citing the fact that there were (are) so many big picture problems that it was worthless to focus on the Manager when the system was broken. But WW is lacking, and if we rebuild, we need a teaching Manager that connects with the younger players. We also need a pitching guru Manager. Is there someone out there that has all of these qualities in one package and is also receptive to relocating to Denver?

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      • Mike Raysfan

        October 5, 2015

        Walt Weiss being fired will not help much … if at all. For me it is the thing that has been discussed ad nauseam over the years.

        THIS: “We also need a pitching guru” but not necessarily the manager of the team

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        • Bob K.

          October 5, 2015

          The Rockies had a number of games well on the way to being won this year and last year which were lost entirely due to Weiss mishandling the pitching staff.

          Last year I was willing to give Weiss the benefit of the doubt since I couldn’t tell whether it was Weiss or the pitching coaches that were incompetent. With a new pitching staff and Weiss still mishandling the pitching staff to give away games that should have been easily won, my conclusion is that Weiss does not have a clue how to handle a pitching staff and really needs to not be back for next year.

          For those that believe that he didn’t have much of a pitching staff to work with, you are right but it still doesn’t change the fact that he is incompetent.

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    • RocketMan

      October 4, 2015

      Just happened to move to another TV in the house, and that one was tuned to Root, in the top of the 9th with 1 out, Giants leading 3-0. All of a sudden it was 3-3 and by the time the Rocks were retired, it was 7-3! A ninth inning meltdown worthy of the season, only by the OTHER team, on the ROAD! Ax made the bottom exciting, loading the bases on two walks and a single, before striking out the nettlesome Matt Duffy and getting Buster to roll over to Nolan for the final out of 2015. Nice way to send off Frazier and maybe Walt.

      Not much to remember from this season, aside from Arenado’s stellar year, and D.J.s 5 months of above-his-numbers performance. Maybe Cargo goes, maybe he stays, but it’s always been a pleasure to watch when the swing turns silky and the ball flys far, far away.

      There’s so many things that need to be improved it seems to me 2016 is just a crapshoot,no matter who gets dealt in and out. I like Walt but it seems like higher performance requires someone who demands more from the players.

      The winters grow longer for most of us, but Spring will eventually arrive, and with it, the Hope that springs eternal.

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    • sdcarp

      October 4, 2015

      Padres will not retain Pat Murphy “in same capacity” (Manager) next season.

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      • Gary

        October 9, 2015

        Pads rival ROX for worst decisions over the past 12 months.

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        • sdcarp

          October 9, 2015

          Pat Murphy intrigues me (apparently he intrigues the Brewers as well). He would be a good “developmental” Manager (meaning a rebuild with lots of young players).

          So you’re right Gary – the Pads were dumb in that they went the “experienced players, try to buy the playoffs” route yet linked a developmental Manager to that philosophy. Honestly – Dusty Baker would have been a good match for their 2015 philosophy.

          This is one area where the Cubs have hit a grand slam home run(pardon the pun). Joe Maddon is an alternative, open-minded, “young” (even though he’s not young) thinker and personality. He meshes perfectly with their young team. Unfortunately, I don’t see Walt meshing with young players (hopefully I’m wrong). His body language just doesn’t exude energy!

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    • Julian

      October 4, 2015

      What number draft pick will we have?

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      • sdcarp

        October 4, 2015

        Ag did a nice job explaining this. We tied with Oakland and Milwaukee for the 4th pick (behind Philly, Cincy, and ATL in that order), but “win” the 4th pick based on being the worst of that group in 2014. Our consistent badness is paying off.

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    • sdcarp

      October 4, 2015

      Marlins to interview Larry Bowa for Manager position. Bowa is an intense, intense man. The Marlins will drive him crazy. He’ll someone if he takes that position.

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      • Gary

        October 9, 2015

        Bowa will blow a fuse before all-star break.

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    • sdcarp

      October 4, 2015

      Current thought of top 5 amateur draft eligible players:

      Alex Hansen: RHP from U of Oklahoma with a huge arm (94-98), huge size (6’8″) and who is improving.

      AJ Puk: LHP from U of Florida; 2nd in the nation in K/9 last year as a sophomore friday starter for one of the best teams in the nation in the toughest conference … and will only get better.

      Blake Rutherford: OF from Chaminade Prep in LA; basically has starred at every prep event he can enter (18-U National team member as a *junior*, USA tourney of Stars MVP, great showing at the Area Code Games).

      Jason Groome: LHP from the IMG Academy. Vanderbilt commit. another USA tourney of Stars and Area code Game all-star, sits 91 and hits 95 as a 17-yr old. Attends the IMG Academy, formerly the Nick Bolloteri tennis academy but now basically a pro-prep HS with a $70k annual tuition that is rapidly becoming the best athletics school in the nation irrespective of the sport. This is good b/c IMG has great in-house talent and will play a fantastic schedule of elite Florida programs and national invite tournaments since, well, the whole point of going there is to prepare yourself for drafting.

      Riley Pint: RHP from Kansas, LSU commit. Sits 92-95 and can hit 98, again as a 17yr old, so he projects pretty well.

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    • sdcarp

      October 5, 2015

      Matt Williams and Staff fired. No surprise. Most teams hold their Manager’s accountable.

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      • Mike Raysfan

        October 5, 2015

        I agree with Chris Russo. Rizzo was as much to blame as anyone and should have gone too. If you are going to clean house and fire the entire staff then why not him? Because of his relationship with owner.

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    • jaredean

      October 5, 2015

      I know these Hot Stove posts are pretty popular in the offseason, so i’ve pinned it to the top of the list 🙂

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      • sdcarp

        October 5, 2015

        Well – in recent history it’s my favorite time of the year. Everyone is 0-0 – so we can honestly say we’re tied for 1st!

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        • Bob K.

          October 5, 2015

          Or you could also say we are tied for last since it is the Rockies. 🙂

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    • Mike Raysfan

      October 5, 2015

      Orioles confirm that both Duquette and Showalter “will absolutely return next season”.

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    • Mike Raysfan

      October 5, 2015

      Possible dissention within the Rockies on Eddie Butler???

      “Rockies GM Jeff Bridich is said to be a believer in young right-hander Eddie Butler, a former Top 100 prospect that has struggled mightily in the Majors. Others in the organization aren’t as sold on him.”

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      • sdcarp

        October 5, 2015

        I’m not “in the organization” and I’m not sold on him.

        Bridich is saying what he has to say here. Butler (remember – Prospects are baseball currency – even tarnished ones to a lesser extent) probably has some trade value – moreso than some of our regulars or semi-regulars.

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    • Bob K.

      October 6, 2015

      Projected Arbitration Salaries for this off season.

      John Axford (5.170) – $6.5MM
      Michael McKenry (4.097) – $1.4MM
      Adam Ottavino (4.087) – $1.6MM
      Jordan Lyles (4.060) – $2.8MM
      Rex Brothers (3.131) – $1.5MM
      DJ LeMahieu (3.128) – $3.7MM
      Wilin Rosario (3.123) – $3.2MM
      Charlie Blackmon (3.102) – $4.5MM
      Brandon Barnes (3.024) – $1.2MM
      Nolan Arenado (2.155) – $6.6MM

      http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/10/projected-arbitration-salaries-for-2016.html

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      • sdcarp

        October 6, 2015

        Nice – thanks Bob K.

        BTW – MLBTradeRumors new site format/graphics are really spiffy. I like it!

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    • Agbayani

      October 6, 2015

      I’m watching the Astros-Yankees play-in game. Announcers keep talking about batters “taking” pitches, and “working” counts. Where are they taking these pitches? Home with them after the game? Where are they “working?” As a Rockies fan, I always understood the rule to be that you had to swing at any pitch that was not literally in the dirt. Did they change the rules?

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    • sdcarp

      October 6, 2015

      Patrick Saunders is reporting (on Twitter) that WW will return for 2016. It’s on Twitter – so it has to be accurate, correct?

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      • IggyRox

        October 6, 2015

        I read it myself in the Post online. Apparently true.

        In a related story, a bar manager at the Rooftop was unceremoniously fired due to his failure to produce enough drink sales and revenue to satisfy team expectations. “We have our priorities, you know”, said an undisclosed Rockies staffer.

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    • rockymountainhigh

      October 6, 2015

      Thomas Harding reported that WW will return. I do like the fact the players will play hard they the final out. I can only hope that he will wise up and delegate bullpen management to Steve Foster.

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    • Agbayani

      October 6, 2015

      Former Rockie Will Harris working as the Astros setup man in the playoffs … 1.90 ERA this year. Guess we had no room for him.

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      • rockymountainhigh

        October 6, 2015

        Colin McHugh won 19 games and we had no room for him. Neither did we have room for Latroy Hawkins. At least he rides off into the sunset with post season play.

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        • Bob K.

          October 6, 2015

          Don’t forget Carlos Torres who in the Mets bullpen.

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    • Agbayani

      October 6, 2015

      That’s right … you could assemble a much better pitching staff out of former Rockies in this year’s playoffs than the current Rockies version.

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      • Bob in WV

        October 6, 2015

        Of course, there is nothing to support the notion that had they all stayed with the Rockies that they would perform any better than the guys there now. There is a reason that they are doing so well and its far beyond altitude.

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    • Bob in WV

      October 6, 2015

      Hey rmh, remember when we met briefly on Opening Day in Houston? After the win that day, with Guthrie I might add, I was thinking how as bad as the Rockies were we were lucky we weren’t Astros fans. Man do I feel stupid tonight.

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      • sdcarp

        October 7, 2015

        The Astros rebuilt, from the ground up. They’re now on a solid foundation.

        For whatever reason (well – the reason is Monfart), the Rockies just can’t come to grips with this. I’ve used the “addiction” analogy previously. The Rockies are addicted to losing. The first step on the road to recovery from an addiction is admitting to the addiction. The Rox can’t make this first step.

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    • Julian

      October 7, 2015

      And don’t forget Franklin, who is in the Royals’ bullpen.

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      • Bob K.

        October 7, 2015

        Darn almost forgot Nicasio with the Dodgers.

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    • Agbayani

      October 7, 2015

      He who puts Franklin Morales on his team’s post-season roster will live to regret it! And the Royals are in the playoffs despite Jeremy Guthrie’s putrid 148 innings of 5.95 ERA baseball. Everything they do turns out o.k. these days … they’re the anti-Rockies!

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    • Agbayani

      October 7, 2015

      Well, maybe not everything the Royals do turns out right. Case in point, Johnny Cueto. Supposedly the Ace, heading into free agency, he’d say “Gimmee the ball”, right? Wrong.

      “In the weeks leading up to the playoffs, Yost and Eiland asked Cueto if he wanted to leapfrog Ventura and set up for Game 1. Cueto demurred, citing his worries about working on short rest. Even when Yost suggested pitching only a few innings in last Sunday’s regular-season finale, Cueto felt uncomfortable.

      So the Royals installed Ventura atop their rotation’s hierarchy.”

      Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/mlb/kansas-city-royals/article37969680.html#storylink=cpy

      Last time Cueto had a big playoff opportunity with the Reds I think he departed early with some kind of muscle tightness thing. No Bumgarner or Kuechel here …

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    • Agbayani

      October 7, 2015

      Pedro Strop, former Rockies property, will also likely work for the Cubs today.

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      • sdcarp

        October 7, 2015

        Strop has turned into a (normally) very good, reliable 8th inning, high leverage pitcher.

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    • Bill

      October 7, 2015

      As far as I know the Rockies management has not announced Walt is coming back. Walt did but the GM has been strangely silent. I presume he is but I’m guessing that Harding and Saunders got their news from Walt.

      Frankly I’m not a Weiss fan. The fact that they did well (playing about .500) the last few weeks of the season means little. Basically it was exhibition baseball. But unless the Rockies get serious about winning games it doesn’t matter. And, at least from what we have seen in the past 5 years or so, as long as Charlie Monfart (or is it Dick?) is in charge, the Rockies are not serious about winning games.

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    • Julian

      October 7, 2015

      I’ll admit that prior to this year I’d never heard of Jake Arrieta (I’m sure that many of you have). What little I know about him is that his career got off to a slow start, and now he’s a 29 year old superstar. So, the optimist in me wonders if there is still hope for some of our pitchers who have had slow starts to their careers to have a similar improvement in their mid to late 20s.

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      • Bob K.

        October 7, 2015

        Sure there is, just as soon as the Rockies either trade them away or DFA them.

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    • sdcarp

      October 7, 2015

      Cubs are legit. I like this team.

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      • Mike Raysfan

        October 8, 2015

        True, and in a 1 game playoff what team wouldn’t run their .075 second half pitcher out there? In a 1 game playoff the scale was definitely tipped in favor of the Cubs.

        The Cubs did had a good Sep against the Cardinals so I’m curious to see what will happen. Will not being able to Arrieta out there every game matter?

        Interesting on the many media reports on how Arrieta got plunked and “dusting it off” but nothing about him hitting 2 people

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        • sdcarp

          October 8, 2015

          Cubs will run out Jon Lester also. He stabilized in the last 1/3 of the season and pitched well. Lots of playoff experience.

          I’m a big fan in the playoffs of ranking the #1 and #2 SPers. That’s as good an indicator as any for who’s going to win.

          Dodgers – Greinke/Kershaw (even though Kershaw has struggled in the playoffs)
          Cubs – Arrieta/Lester
          Cards – Wacha/Lackey????
          Mets – DaGrom/Harvey
          Toronto – Price/Stroman
          KC – Ventura/Cueto (a bit flakey)
          Houston – Kuechel / Kazmir
          Texas – Hamels / Perez? Gallardo?

          Granted, the Wild Card games will upset the desired rotation of the Astros and Cubs.

          It might sound crazy – but I like Price/Stroman best of these groups (although there are four really good combos here). Stroman is electric – and you know how good Price can be. Normally I would say Greinke/Kershaw, but Kershaw’s playoff record is to the point that I think it might be in his head some. Cards are struggling with injuries. Matt Harvey hasn’t been great in the 2nd half for the Mets. Cueto is a flake. Astros can’t pitch Kuechel every game.

          I’m going Dodgers, Cubs, Jays, and Astros with the big perceived upset.

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    • jaredean

      October 8, 2015

      How ’bout that Dexter Fowler…eh? Still owe a certain Dex hater dinner 😉

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      • jaredean

        October 8, 2015

        I predict the kid will have a monster playoff’s, getting tons of buzz before he starts to slump heavily next year about a month into the season…

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      • roxnsox

        October 8, 2015

        Did you perceive his body language last night? He had a fierce look on his face the minute he came up, one I never saw before. He was jumping and hoo-rahing and slapping and yakking all night. And in the scrum, he was at the front, screaming. Ummmm….who are you and what did you do with our mellow Dex? (Not criticizing though.) Oh, and he played pretty well too! Loving it.

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      • roxnsox

        October 8, 2015

        Do we maybe need a Playoffs Discussion thread? This is making Hot Stove awfully long already 🙂

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    • sdcarp

      October 8, 2015

      Always fun (at least for me) as I watch the playoffs – keeping in mind the team payrolls. Recently, payrolls, making the playoffs, and succeeding in the playoffs don’t seem to necessarily correlate. Here are the 2015 payrolls:

      Los Angeles Dodgers: $273,440,830
      New York Yankees: $211,747,857
      Boston Red Sox: $178,513,094
      San Francisco Giants: $169,452,777
      Detroit Tigers: $166,675,000
      Los Angeles Angels: $159,687,833
      Washington Nationals: $158,514,285
      Philadelphia Phillies: $136,366,666
      Texas Rangers: $135,750,000
      Toronto Blue Jays: $121,125,000
      Seattle Mariners: $119,237,142
      Baltimore Orioles: $118,543,333
      St. Louis Cardinals: $115,350,000
      Cincinnati Reds: $114,869,587
      Chicago Cubs: $114,629,523
      Kansas City Royals: $112,890,000
      Chicago White Sox: $110,060,477
      Minnesota Twins: $100,975,000
      Colorado Rockies: $99,516,171
      Milwaukee Brewers: $98,037,500
      New York Mets: $94,761,105
      San Diego Padres: $93,643,333
      Atlanta Braves: $92,568,898
      Pittsburgh Pirates: $84,312,499
      Arizona Diamondbacks: $83,458,333
      Cleveland Indians: $81,811,999
      Oakland Athletics: $77,234,166
      Tampa Bay Rays: $67,908,332
      Houston Astros: $63,300,000
      Miami Marlins: $60,375,000

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      • sdcarp

        October 8, 2015

        Nice distribution. 3 teams (Mets, Pirates, and Astros) in bottom 1/3 of pay. 3 teams (Cards, Cubs, and Royals) in middle 1/3. Yankees, Rangers, Jays, and Dodgers in top 1/3.

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    • JulieG

      October 8, 2015

      Discounting the Dodgers, which seem to have money to burn, In the long run it appears to me that the more you spend the more you get which tends to make a difference over time. Of course, there are aberrations in that some teams can do well with less, discounting us:-)

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      • sdcarp

        October 8, 2015

        Julie – the team here that “scares” me is the Cubs. They’ve rebuilt from the ground up, the right way. Their current payroll is mid-pack. But they’re a big market team. A really big market team. So they’ve got all these stud young players (Bryant, Russell, Schwarber, etc.) AND discretionary income and lots of payroll flexibility.

        Imagine the 2016 Cubs with basically the same group they have now PLUS a David Price or Jordan Zimmerman or Zack Grienke. Even if they pay Price north of 30M a year, their payroll is still well within their means, and well under the luxury tax. They’re going to be a force for years to come.

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        • JulieG

          October 8, 2015

          They don’t really “scare me” in that they are my second team, however, you are right on with your thoughts!

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    • Pooter

      October 8, 2015

      Hey friends! Sorry, this has already probably been mentioned on here but I’m gonna say it anyway.

      Did you all realize the starter for game 1 for the Astros, who has 19 wins this year, was cut but the Rockies to make room for BOOOOOOONE LOGAN!!!

      Have a good day

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      • jaredean

        October 8, 2015

        And check out who’s third on the mound to pitch for the Dodgers…

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        • Pooter

          October 8, 2015

          Oh and I forgot to mention! They acquired Mchugh from the Mets by sending them none other than my boy EYJ! Sad all around!

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    • Mike Raysfan

      October 8, 2015

      Thank you Jeremy Affeldt for bringing some common sense explanation to your on air colleagues. I have no issue with the way he was hit last night. None.

      Amazing how quickly everyone has jumped on the Arrieta bandwagon. While he did have a decent year last year lets face it, he struggled in the AL East and there is no way anyone predicted this season. Media needs to take a deep breath.

      And as much as it pains me to mention his name, sorry he is no Madison Bumgarner.

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    • Agbayani

      October 8, 2015

      Mr September (Tulo) — as tying run at the plate, bottom of the 9th STRIKES OUT! Shocking. 0-4 with 3 men left on base. Jays fans may want Reyes back before this series ends!

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    • Agbayani

      October 8, 2015

      And somehow both Donaldson and Bautista left the game with injuries? (I’m following on game day). That’s Tulo’s role!

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    • sdcarp

      October 9, 2015

      The Mariners – expected to contend in 2K15 – fire entire coaching staff.

      Accountability – what a concept!

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    • Agbayani

      October 9, 2015

      Mr. September, Tulo: 0-8, 3 K, 5 left on base so far this postseason. Extra innings, he’s due up — I say “pop-out”.

      Career postseason: .197 coming into today’s game.

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    • Agbayani

      October 9, 2015

      And Tulo finishes the 14 inning marathon at 0-6, 3 strikeouts. Baseball is weird: I was rooting for the Jays when Tulo first went over there, but somehow watching these games, I’m kind of enjoying watching them – the big money team, including Tulo – struggle. Or maybe I’m just weird since I don’t know my own mind.

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    • sdcarp

      October 10, 2015

      File under the category “the rich get richer,” the Cubs sign Eddy Julio Martinez:

      “The deal, reported by several industry sources but yet to be confirmed by the Cubs, is believed to be for $3 million. It had been reported last weekend that he agreed to a $2.5 million deal with the Giants, though he later had a change of heart. The five-tool player is projected to remain in center field as he develops and would provide another fantastic piece to an already very deep and talented Cubs organization.”

      Once again, the Rox are inactive in the international market. This one in particular blows my mind. This is cheaper than a late first round, early 2nd round pick in the amateur draft.

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      • sdcarp

        October 10, 2015

        FWIW – the immediate impact Cuban players are all accounted for. The next wave of Cubans will be guys like Eddy Julio Martinez who are essentially like the kids available in the May amateur draft. My guess he can start his career in high A ball.

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    • sdcarp

      October 11, 2015

      Uh oh…….new item to put on MLBs Hot Stove agenda – elimination of contact slide at 2nd. It will be the Buster Posey rule, but called the Chase Utley rule.

      Now…..this is about as predictable as Jake Arrieta stealing 2nd other night – Utley will have a ball thrown at his head as soon as he steps to the plate in NY. If the Dodgers are smart, they start him in game 3 and slot him in at #1 or #2. That will get Matt Harvey thrown out of the game quickly. Of course – if NY is REALLY smart, they leave Harvey in the Pen and start Jon Neise to do the dirty work. My money is on Collins being smarter than Mattingly.

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    • sdcarp

      October 11, 2015

      An excerpt from an article in today’s NY Post:

      “Harvey, whose lateness to a mandatory off-day practice recently lowered his already shaky standing with fans and teammates, could potentially score points by plunking a Dodger or two (Utley, in particular). But with so much at stake, does he want to risk baserunners and ejection? Yes, another fascinating storyline in a series that is no longer just another postseason series. Doesn’t it feel likely now that there will be a dugout-clearing incident before this series concludes?”

      I’ll be tuning into tomorrow’s game for sure. Lot of pressure on Matt Harvey. He’s turned into sort of a hybrid between a prima-donna and wuss. He can spin that around to superhero if he handles this correctly (I don’t pretend to know what “correctly” is at the moment).

      It was fascinating watching Syndergaard early in last night’s game as he was blowing up the radar gun and thinking about several accounts from so called experts back in the offseason prior to the 2014 season that the Mets would have dealt him for Tulo (I also don’t pretend to know if that’s true – or not). But hypothetically – if it were true – we’d be much farther along in the rebuild process now.

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    • sdcarp

      October 11, 2015

      Oh well – drama gone (mostly). Utley suspended for games 3 & 4.

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      • rockymountainhigh

        October 11, 2015

        He would probably have sat out next two games so no loss there. (Concussion?)

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        • sdcarp

          October 11, 2015

          Utley was (and Dodgers say still is) penciled into tomorrow night’s lineup. We’ll have to wait for the outcome of the appeal.

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          • sdcarp

            October 11, 2015

            RMH – I think we’ll find out tomorrow night. I see no way this suspension will be upheld. I’m all for changing and/or clarifying this rule, but you can’t just arbitrarily do it during the playoffs. It needs to implemented beginning next season.

            If I’m the Dodgers – I start him tomorrow night. If Harvey throws at him, he’ll get tossed. That’s a plus for the Dodgers.

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    • Agbayani

      October 12, 2015

      Yep, Tulo with the big blast! And I enjoyed seeing that, even though I had also been ripping him for his clutch failures …

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    • Bob in WV

      October 12, 2015

      “The rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated.” Was this said by a) Mark Twain or b) Troy Tulowitzki?

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    • sdcarp

      October 12, 2015

      I’m sympathetic to Tulo at the moment. He gets a fairly significant injury late in the season, has to sit idle for several weeks to let it heal, and no doubt loses his timing/rhythm at the worst possible time in the process. How many times do we see hitters coming of injuries struggled at the plate when they return – sometimes for significant amount of time. It’s a game of timing, rhythm, and repetition.

      Related to the Texas/Toronto series – Texas OFer Leonys Martin was left off the Ranger’s playoff roster. However, the Rangers asked several players (Martin being one) to report to “camp” for drills/conditioning/etc in case they became needed during the playoffs. Martin failed to report. So now the Rangers (rightfully so) may non-tender. Martin is an interesting player. Will be 28 next year. Has decent speed (stole 36 and 31 bases in 2013 and 2014 respectively) – and has occasionally shown some power. Decent defender. Slumped early this year and lost his spot to Delino Deshields Jr. Projected to be owed 1.6M in arbitration. He’s another excellent candidate for an incentive laden pillow contract.

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    • EdtheUmp

      October 13, 2015

      If ANYTHING points out the Rockies malaise, it is this writer’s take on the success of the Royals in their hitting philosophy and the inability of the opponent’s bullpen to “shut down the other team in the late innings” this is it. In one simple paragraph the two most important Rockies shortcomings are painfully revealed. Solve those two glaring inabilities and the Rockies, every year, are an 81-81 team at worst.

      “Kansas City’s dramatic rally highlighted a strength and weakness of both clubs: The Royals’ ability to battle at-bats, avoid strikeouts and put the ball in play and the Astros not having a flamethrowing reliever or two like every team seems to have today to extinguish those late rallies. Will Harris, Tony Sipp and Luke Gregerson combined to throw 56 pitches in the eighth inning and induced just seven swings-and-misses. They threw 24 pitches with two strikes and got just one swing-and-miss. The fastest pitch of the inning was just 92.9 mph – pedestrian by 2015 standards – and closer Gregerson came in, trying to keep the game tied, and didn’t throw one pitch that clocked 90 mph. Against a team that had the lowest strikeout rate in the majors in the regular season, it was a perfect storm of a shaky bullpen and an offense doing what it does best.”

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      • EdtheUmp

        October 13, 2015

        David Schoenfield, a blogger writing on the ESPN website was the author of the above quote. Forgot to give credit.

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      • rockymountainhigh

        October 13, 2015

        Exactly what RWOers have been preaching for a while; Bridich doing his best collecting flame throwers who can throw strikes. Actually doesn’t have to be a really high velocity pitcher if you can throw strikes. Look at Bartolo Colon at age 42 last night – filled up the strike zone in the low 90s but with movements. Or the great Greg Maddux – pitchability.

        As for hitting, Rockies need to cut down on striking out. Far too often, more than I can count we swung at so many pitches out of the zone early in the count which gave the opposing pitchers a big head start on the Rockies batters.

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        • sdcarp

          October 13, 2015

          RMH – as you allude to, I see some promising signs in the Rox Pen.

          In my opinion, what the Rox could use is a consistent, strike throwing, short term established Closer. This was the same plea I made last year. It pushes everyone else back an inning and into slightly lower leverage situations. It buys a little time for guys like Diaz, Castro, Castro, Miller, Kahnle, and even Oberg to develop. I thought the downfall in the blueprint for building the Pen for this year wasn’t the resign of Latroy Hawkins per se, but the insistence that he would Close.

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            • sdcarp

              October 13, 2015

              I say “short term” because I believe any one of these guys listed (and Ottavino) could emerge as a cost-controlled longer term option by the end of next season.

              I would also note this is where Tyler Chatwood should be slotted (BP). He throws hard. That coupled with the miserable history of 2 time TJ surgeries should be enough to keep him away from starting.

    • Mike Raysfan

      October 13, 2015

      Wow. Axford missed free agency by 2 days so he will be back in 2016.

      “MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz pegged Axford at $6.5MM”

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      • sdcarp

        October 13, 2015

        Mike – I saw that.

        Help me out here – we don’t have to offer him arbitration, right or wrong? He’s not worth 6.5M. To me – he’s a bit like Morneau (although I realize their contracts are different) – he might be worth having back depending on the direction the team chooses to take this offseason – but it should at a much lower rate.

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        • Mike Raysfan

          October 13, 2015

          Well now that he will not be a free agent until 2017 he is arbitration eligible. I guess several things could happen but I think you are asking if the Rockies could just say you are free to go do a deal of your choice? I doubt they will.

          They most likely will agree to some number before the hearing date. Or possibly work a trade with another team that agrees to some number and knows he will sign on the dotted line.

          That $6.5m is coming from the mlbtr formula that they allege to be reasonably accurate.

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          • sdcarp

            October 13, 2015

            Ax went through a lot last season off the field and the Rox really seemed to stand behind him and give him the flexibility to take care of business. It also seemed like the community got behind his son’s battle to come back from the rattlesnake bite. I could see him agreeing to a 3-4M contract.

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    • sdcarp

      October 13, 2015

      To me, the first big offensive domino of the Hot Stove season will be Jason Heyward. Now that the Cards are eliminated, he may get some early indications of his mindset, and also how hard the Cards will pursue him. I can’t see them doing the contract that it’s going to take to keep him. They didn’t do it for Pujols, and he was a homegrown St Louis legend. In my mind, his decision will indirectly impact the Cargo market.

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      • Bill

        October 13, 2015

        I’m not sure what the dollar figure is that Heyward is seeking but the big difference between him and Pujols is age. Heyward is in his prime, Albert for all his greatness was past his prime. And despite his strike out in the 6th or 7th today, he’s improved his hitting against lefties. Now the Cards always seem to find outfielders who can hit and field… Piscotty, Pham, Griljuk (or whatever his name is) etc. so they might not pony up (sorry for the Cargo pun) if they feel those guys can play close to what Hayward produced at a fraction of the price. But the Cards were done, not only because of the pitching injuries, but when Molina got hurt they couldn’t compete. He’s one of the most valuable players in the league even when he’s not hitting.

        I know the Cubs and Chicago are going crazy (except for White Sox fans who hate the Cubs) but they were celebrating today like they won something. They still have to win 8 more games. They’ll have an advantage in the next series because the Mets or Dodgers will have less rest but I’m still thinking that after Arietta and to a lesser extent Lester the Cubs starting pitching stinks. Now the Dodgers only have two starters who are any good but they are both great and I think Kershaw slayed some demons tonight. And all the Mets starters are very good to great. Harvey and Matz each had one poor inning but both were hurt by shoddy fielding.

        As a baseball fan with no dog in the fight three sudden death games is a dream come true. Like to see three one run games. I think that Toronto and KC are the two best teams in the AL but Gibbons is pretty shaky as a manager and trusting the deciding game to Johnny Cueto is kind of scary but that would be a hell of a series. DeGrom against Greinke..wow…could be zip-zip going into the 7th.

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        • sdcarp

          October 14, 2015

          Bill – I’ve seen beat writers/bloggers throw around 8 years, 200M. I’ve also heard the theory that there could be an “out” close for both sides after 4 years (this could make it more tolerable for St Louis). You’re 100% correct about his age. That’s a big part of why he’s so valuable. Even so, and even if he ages well (and keep in mind he throws his body around quite a bit), someone will be paying him north of 25M per year in his 31, 32, 33, and 34 years.

          You’re also 100% correct about the emerging young OFers in St Louis. I really like Randal Grichuk in particular. And they still have Matt Holliday – who may be at the age that being a #4 OFer/go-to pinch hitter is a perfect role.

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          • sdcarp

            October 14, 2015

            Bill – the Yankees have a kid in their Farm (Aaron Judge) that reminds me of Grichuk (and vica versa) except Judge is even better (I think). They’re both big, strong, athletic guys. I think Judge is 6′-6. Imagine Paul Bunyan as a baseball player and that’s what this Judge kid looks like.

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    • Julian

      October 14, 2015

      The Arizona Fall League started yesterday. Tapia is playing instead of Dahl; he went 0-4 with two strikeouts. But Matt Carasiti and Carlos Estevez each threw a scoreless inning in relief, and Estevez got the save.

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    • Julian

      October 14, 2015

      I didn’t realize that we’d waived Brooks Brown. Why did we do that? I assume it was because we needed a spot on the 40 man roster, so who did we add to the roster at the time that we waived Brooks Brown? In a bullpen as bad as ours, he seemed like he had a chance of making the roster next year.

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      • sdcarp

        October 14, 2015

        If Brooks Brown belonged to any other Major League Club, I would surmise that perhaps his shoulder issues may be more serious than advertised. But it’s the Rockies. I could just be a dumb ass mistake by the Clown Show. We’ll see.

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    • sdcarp

      October 14, 2015

      Well well well………it does seem as though there’s some housekeeping going on at 20th and Blake. From Denver.com:

      “The Colorado Rockies made four roster moves today regarding their 40-man roster. Most notably right-handed reliever Brooks Brown was claimed off of waivers by the Los Angeles Dodgers. The other three moves had the Rockies outrighting catcher Michael McKenry, and right-handed relievers Simon Castro, and Gonzalez Germen to Albuquerque.”

      Me thinks another team could claim McHenry. I put the chances at 50/50.

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      • Bob K.

        October 14, 2015

        They had to already pass through waivers in order to be outrighted off the 40 man roster. The roster moves were necessary because the season is over and they had to have room for the players that were on the 60 day DL. So McKenry made it through waivers.

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    • sdcarp

      October 14, 2015

      And……our boy Kyle Freeland pitches tonight for the mighty Salt River Rafters in the AFL.

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      • sdcarp

        October 14, 2015

        Oh boy – 2/3 IP, 6 ER. Atta boy! Rox pitcher development…….2nd to none.

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    • Agbayani

      October 15, 2015

      Ouch. Freeland, horrible start to the fall. Not panic time … yet. Lots of rusty pitchers down there who haven’t pitched in a game for over a month. Interesting final rosters: David Dahl was going to the AFL, but now apparently isn’t — Tapia is there instead. Also some catcher I’ve never heard of. Overall a weak Rockies contingent with only Freeland and Tapia as real prospects on our AFL team.

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    • Agbayani

      October 15, 2015

      And I should add: watching the playoffs, it really drives home how far away this Rockies team is from competing with the big boys. Incredible young hitting talent, half a dozen players deep (Cubs, Astros). Incredible 1-2 starters, or even 1-2-3 starters (Mets). Lineups that don’t give opposing pitchers any opportunity to relax (Blue Jays). And I haven’t even mentioned the Dodgers. The only team I look at and say “maybe we could get there” in a few years is the Royals, since much of their success is built on a really good bullpen, which somehow seems a little more in reach than something like 2 dominant starters, since we can’t even seem to manage one dominant starter …

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      • sdcarp

        October 15, 2015

        Absolutely. This is what I’ve been preaching. We are so, so, so far away. The only chance we have is to tear it down and rebuild it correctly. The blueprints are there (Astros, Royals, Cubs, Mets, Rays). It’s not unchartered territory.

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    • Bob in WV

      October 15, 2015

      You are all aware that the Cubs are destined to win it all, right? Need proof? Go back and watch “Back to the Future 2” where Marty McFly in 1985 goes 30 years into the future to 2015 and learns that the Chicago Cubs win the World Series. Got a lot of laughs back then but it could come true, although it could possibly happen in November the way playoffs go now.

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      • Bob in WV

        October 15, 2015

        Should have mentioned October 2015 to make the last sentence make more sense.

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      • sdcarp

        October 15, 2015

        Wow…..I vaguely remember that – only because you jogged my memory.

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    • Bill

      October 15, 2015

      I think Ag is correct in that the only team still playing that the Rockies might be able emulate is KC. Starting pitching is only so-so, except for last night when Cueto was electric and they depend on their bullpen. They also play great defense and use their speed to their advantage. Of course the Rockies bullpen ERA was horrible this year. And one of the reasons for that was their starters didn’t go deep into games. (Even on the rare occasions when they pitched well). Fairly early in the year Weiss was quoted in the Post saying that he didn’t think he was overusing Ottovino. I’m not an expert on what causes the need for Tommy John surgery but I would guess throwing a baseball has something to do with it.

      I was at a doctor’s office yesterday afternoon and had been listening to the Blue Jays – Rangers game on the radio. Even though there are big signs in the office saying “No cell phones” I kept checking the score on my phone while waiting (and waiting and waiting). I thought something was wrong with the phone because it kept saying the game was in the top of the 7th for almost an hour. How was I to know that one of the craziest innings of baseball was happening. Actually got in the car in time to hear Batista’s homerun but didn’t learn about the crazy happenings until later. Wow!

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    • Julian

      October 16, 2015

      In the Arizona Fall League, Sam Moll gives up two earned runs in one inning, and Jordan Patterson goes 1 – 5 with a steal. On the other hand, Daniel Winkler pitches a scoreless inning. I was upset when we lost him in the Rule 5 draft.

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    • Julian

      October 16, 2015

      Maybe it’s the corollary to bad player development, but I’ve never thought that we do a great job of managing the 40 man roster. Periodically I think that we keep and let go the wrong guys. Winkler makes me think of that, and I’ll be pissed if Brooks Brown becomes an effective pitcher for the Dodgers, while we kept guys on the 40 man roster who don’t turn into anything useful for us.

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      • sdcarp

        October 16, 2015

        Brooks Brown doesn’t bother me. He’s got a low ceiling, and is an older player. But given our historically bad SP throughout the entire system, top-to-bottom, losing Daniel Winkler (even considering the TJ surgery) was an inexcusable mistake.

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        • Bob K.

          October 16, 2015

          Yes and the Winkler loss was all due to the Rockies trying to save money. They didn’t put him on the 40 man roster because they would have had to pay the major league rate instead of the minor league rate for having him on the DL.

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    • Julian

      October 16, 2015

      Bob, are you sure that’s the reason? Could it have been (or also been) a 40 man roster issue? If they let him go to save the difference between those two salaries, that’s crazy given how good a minor leaguer he was before the injury.

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      • Bob K.

        October 16, 2015

        Like carp said they really thought that it was safe to leave him off of the 40 man because of the TJ surgery. They were ready to call him up to the big league right before he got hurt. No injury, no question he would still be a Rockie property on the major league club and would have been a valuable asset in the bullpen.

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    • sdcarp

      October 16, 2015

      My take on Winkler (solely my opinion) is that the Rox brass thought they could get cute and leave him off the 40 man (unprotected) and no one would take him because of the TJ surgery. Then they got thoroughly outsmarted by the Braves who not only took him, but shrewdly brought him up when the rosters expanded in September to start the clock ticking on his Rule 5 service time. He only pitched 1 2/3 innings, but rosters were expanded and the Braves were way out of the race.

      Moving forward – one of two things happens to Winkler. Thing one is that he’s healthy for ST, makes the Braves roster and becomes a useful part of their roster. Thing two – he sucks in ST and comes back to the Rox. It’s win-win for the Braves.

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      • sdcarp

        October 16, 2015

        To rub salt in the wound, we chose to keep any of about a dozen really bad, low ceiling guys over Winkler.

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    • Bob K.

      October 17, 2015

      I am assuming that Matt McBride was also waived and cleared waivers since he has declared free agency.

      http://rockiesroster.com/

      What they do with Dustin Garneau will be interesting. He has 3 options left but is also eligible for minor league free agency this off season. Tom Murphy needs to stay on the 40 man roster or he will be Rule 5 eligible this off season and I do believe that some team would draft him.

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    • Julian

      October 17, 2015

      Tom Murphy definitely needs to stay on the 40 man roster or else some other team would definitely draft him.

      I think that we want to keep Garneau. I’d see Murphy starting the year in AAA and playing every day, and Garneau being the major league backup. Midyear, depending on what’s going on, we could trade Hundley at the trade deadline and bring up Murphy. By 2017 Murphy should be the starter.

      By my count, if we don’t resign Morneau and Kendrick, we’re right at 40 on the 40 man roster. I’d love to be a person or two below that so that we can take one or two players in the Rule 5 draft.

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      • sdcarp

        October 17, 2015

        I think this is a rational analysis of the C situation.

        What “should” happen is Hundley is traded this offseason. He far (I mean far) over-performed his career to date offensive numbers last season. He’s relatively cheap. Unlike guys like Wilin, Barnes, Logan, etc., Hundley has some trade value, albeit it minor. This would free the C situation for Garneau and Murphy while clearing a spot on the 40 man.

        Footnote – I make the above suggestion as part of a bigger assumption – that the the Rox begin a rebuild and will have also traded Cargo and others and will internally admit that they will be non-competitive next season. Hence allowing Murphy and Garneau to develop at the major league level.

        The Cubs brought up Kyle Schwarber this year far ahead of schedule, before his catching tools were major league ready, and it’s worked out pretty well, huh? Let Murph play – can he be defensive worse than Wilin and Hundley? I think not.

        Big picture here – the 40 man is easy to manage if the Rox do the right thing and rebuild.

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    • sdcarp

      October 17, 2015

      Zack Greinke opts out of contract (or has decided to opt out – not official yet).

      The Dodgers were on the hook for 71M for Greinke final 3 years – so now they have that……but will be really hard pressed to find something equal to Greinke in that price range. They’re saying they will become more frugal……this will be a good test.

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    • sdcarp

      October 18, 2015

      One thing I’ve been watching with great interest is the performance of Yoenis Cespedes since his trade to the Mets. I don’t have to tell anyone here that his performance has been across the board amazing. He’s re-established himself as a true 5 tool player. The trade flipped a light switch in his head (I bet the Tigers and Red Sox are wondering where this version of Cespedes was when they had him). It reminds me of the Fred McGriff trade to the Atlanta Braves a gazillion years ago. Same type of “light switch” result.

      In my opinion, Cespedes’s performance is helping the Rockies (in theory). Cespedes FA value is going through the roof. He may be as pricey as Jason Heyward even though he’s nearly 4 years older. He’s priced himself out of the mid/small market contender group. Once again, Cargo’s tepid 37M for only a 2 year commitment is looking really good – especially to the mid/small group.

      I said “in theory” because the Rox have to take advantage of this (far from a guarantee), but the opportunity is there.

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    • Doc

      October 18, 2015

      Interesting take from Patrick Saunders in the DP spelling out the woes of Tulo–best part was the end where he relates ESPN’s ranking of sports franchises:

      “ESPN rankings. In case you missed it, ESPN the Magazine’s “Ultimate Standings 2015” came out last week. The Rockies came in depressingly low.

      At No. 110 overall, the Rockies were ranked the 13th worst franchise in professional sports, and as MLB’s second-worst organization, trailing only the Philadelphia Phillies.

      Describing the dark side of the Rockies, ESPN.com senior writer Eric Karabell wrote:

      “Most losing franchises deal with fans feeling unappreciated or being unable to voice concerns, but the Rockies’ score in “providing an avenue for fans to give feedback” is the worst in all of sports.

      Ownership (118th, down 10 spots from last year) is not seen as trustworthy, and the e-mail in which owner Dick Monfort told a disgruntled fan that “maybe Denver doesn’t deserve a franchise” sure didn’t help (as shown by a 117th-place finish in fan relations).”

      I agree with some of these points. I think it’s clear that Monfort does not understand the depth of true baseball fans’ frustration with his team.

      Then again, the Rockies drew 31,334 fans per game at Coors Field, so ESPN’s ranking of Colorado as 57th in fan experience among all pro sports is bogus. Also, keep in mind that the fans who voted in this ESPN exercise are likely the most disgruntled of fans.

      Yes, the Rockies are a frustrating and often dysfunctional franchise, but there is no way they should rank lower than the Miami Marlins (106).”

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      • sdcarp

        October 18, 2015

        Doc – thanks for posting this. It was an “Insider” article – so I couldn’t access, but I expected a super low rating.

        Why are the Phillies rated lower than the Rockies? They’re not that far removed from winning a World Series and having great attendance. I’m not sure I get that.

        Purple Row had a poll the other day about organizing a fan boycott week of the Rockies in 2016. Honestly, I think it’s a great idea if it could aomehow be pulled off. But I’m skeptical that someone or some organization has enough clout to get the word out to the casual and sub-casual fans.

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        • Doc

          October 19, 2015

          Problem with having a successful boycott is the tremendous fan support of the Rox opponents.

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          • Gary

            October 19, 2015

            and what do you think reduced revenue will do to any roster redo? A coup where someone makes Monfort an offer he can’t refuse [MONEY not a horse head] would be better.Any team with our record that draws 31,000 should be a cash cow and take over target for shark tank investors!

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            • sdcarp

              October 19, 2015

              So Gary – you’re saying Mark Cuban is buying the Rockies? I like it!

    • roxnsox

      October 18, 2015

      Hey all – still wish there was a separate Playoffs Discussion Thread… so much to talk about there! Right now I just have to say that there has been pretty poor strike-calling overall. Aren’t these guys supposed to be the top-shelf umps?

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      • roxnsox

        October 18, 2015

        And please, please, please, whoever you stat-head-robots are out there in tv land…. STOP with the First Step, Route Effiency, Exit Velocity, Total Distance, or whatever the HELL else you feel the need to compute and paste all over the screen. Is the whole world now dried and shriveled up to be seen only as metrics? Whatever happened to just watching the grand old game in October, or any time, with hearts and eyes and just the sheer pleasure of poetry in motion? That’s just for the old-timers anymore, I guess… I’m more or less happy to be one of those…

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        • roxnsox

          October 18, 2015

          I’m probably a little snarly because the Cubbies are floundering tonight :(. But here’s some more irritating crap:
          First step stealing. Max speed. Base steal time. (Ok, I admit the last one is interesting:)

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          • sdcarp

            October 18, 2015

            I’ll spare you stats and just say the Mets, Astro’s, and Cubs are built to be around, and be contenders for awhile. These aren’t one-time shots for these three teams. So if your Cubs don’t make it this year, be patient. They’ll be back – soon.

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            • roxnsox

              October 18, 2015

              Thanks sdcarp. I do appreciate that. But you know the drill with the Cubs… how many more Next Years to wait for? 🙂

        • EdtheUmp

          October 21, 2015

          Amen, roxnsox. Someone convinced someone else that all the drivel they are putting up on the screen is pertinent.

          I would be willing to bet that around 70% (or more) of TV viewers really don’t like all that “stuff”.

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      • EdtheUmp

        October 21, 2015

        roxnsox,

        That freakin’ “strike box” they put up on all MLB telecasts has made everyone an expert. It’s an approximation, not actual.

        Try this (I can do it because I have Directv and the DVR of the game allows frame-by-frame replay)…Montero is the worst…he “pulls” pitches 3-6″ constantly…watch closely at all the catchers. Virtually all of them “pull” pitches. Why?

        Umps can see it and are not swayed. Even ML catchers cannot break themselves of a habit they learn in LL.

        I used to tell catchers, “you must think it’s a ball or you wouldn’t do it, and you’re trying to ‘fool me’ into thinking it’s a strike.” That might work with borderline umps at the low amateur level, but no good umpire is going to let that happen.

        It just “fuels” the fan into thinking he could do a better job than the ump does. They can’t.

        Just a couple thoughts from a real umpire…not meant to demean the fans perspective.

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    • Gary

      October 19, 2015

      Back to the Future 2 says this is the year the Cubs win the WS, but it may take Doc and Marty and the flux capacitor to dig them out of this 2-0 hole.

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    • sdcarp

      October 19, 2015

      The Phils just outrighted Dominic Brown to AAA. Because of his service time, he can (and likely will) elect for free agency.

      If the Rox trade Cargo and go into rebuild mode, he’s a perfect buy low, let the Coors Field Effect kick in, trade at the deadline next season candidate.

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    • Agbayani

      October 20, 2015

      Good links, carp. On Murphy: the fangraphs analysis is pessimistic because of his contact skills/high K rate. I’m more concerned about the low walk rate. That’s why I’ve called him Iannetta without the walks, which is, as fangraphs suggests, not a starting catcher. We’ll see.

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      • sdcarp

        October 20, 2015

        “Iannetta without the walks.” That’s hits home – even though it’s a bad thing.

        Iannetta has always had value in deep, strong fantasy leagues because he brought two things to the table – HR’s (relative to other late round Catchers) and a very strong OBP relative to his BA (our League has always used OBP as the 6th offensive category). So in this “deep” format – Iannetta has generally been slightly more valuable than the $1 minimum. Take that OBP away – and he’s essentially worthless. So if Murphy is “Iannetta without the walks” – that doesn’t bode well at all.

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    • Julian

      October 20, 2015

      Arizona Fall League news: on Monday Estevez pitched a clean inning (15 pitches, 10 for strikes, and two strikeouts, and got the save), and Tapia was one for two, although he then got caught stealing.

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    • sdcarp

      October 20, 2015

      From MLB Trade Rumors – the Rockies entire coaching staff will return in 2016 (oh joy!)…..with one exception:

      “The Rockies will, however, lose mental skills coach Andy McKay to the Mariners, Bob Dutton of the Tacoma News Tribune reports. McKay will reportedly take over for Chris Gwynn as the organization’s farm director. Along with Gwynn, a number of minor-league coaches have also departed, signaling that new GM Jerry Dipoto is changing the way the Mariners develop prospects.”

      File that under “things you can’t make up.” There’s all sorts of joke potential here. I find it fascinating another team wants him!

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    • sdcarp

      October 21, 2015

      Well roxnsox – looks like the Cubs have met their match in Mets juggernaut pitching staff.

      But as previously noted, fear not. In my opinion, the Cubs are the most “fixable” of this year’s playoff teams. They need another shut-down front of the rotation SP to pair with Arrietta. Well…..it just so happens David Price, Jordan Zimmerman, Zack Grienke, Johnny Cueto, etc. are available this year. They can easily afford to shop in that price range. They’ll end up with one of those guys. That pushes Lester down to #3, about where he belongs. All their young offensive players will have an extra year of experience. They could push the 100 win plateau next season. I like where they are……very good position for the future.

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    • Agbayani

      October 21, 2015

      Mets and Royals have both played fantastic baseball this postseason. Off the top of my head I can’t recall any boneheaded plays — you know, the sort that the Rangers made half a dozen of in allowing the Blue Jays to steal that series. Royals continue to fascinate me — why is their scrap heap veteran righty Chris Young so effective whereas our guy Kendrick was so awful? I’d like to say it was scouting or something, but really it was just plain good luck. They have Cueto now, but look who their starters have been: Young, Guthrie, Volquez … they have no right to be here! Looking forward to a Mets-Royals series (assuming Troy and the Jays can’t take 3 in a row) … kind of a weird problem for me since there’s no one to hate there — I like ’em both.

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    • Agbayani

      October 21, 2015

      Stat post on Royals Chris Young: average fastball 86.6. And the most extreme flyball pitcher in baseball — he’s 6’10” and he lives up in the strike zone. Should be a recipe for disaster, but it isn’t — flyballs are less likely to turn into hits than groundballs, so we get a ridiculously low BABIP: .209 this year, .247 for his career. Yeah, I know, Coors Field and all that, but just for the heck of it, I’d love to see the Rockies try a couple flyball pitchers. It’s not like the extreme groundball emphasis has paid huge dividends. Note that Kyle Kendrick was supposed to be a groundballer, but he turned into a pretty major flyball pitcher as soon as he arrived. I still call it the Curse of Pope Benedict — Rockies pitching experiments have all failed since O’Dowd called out Ubaldo for taking his mother to see the Pope instead of training in the offseason.

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    • sdcarp

      October 22, 2015

      Ag – I find myself mostly agreeing with you regarding the post-season. Lots of “likable” teams this year for various reasons. The Astros/Cubs/Mets highlight the rebuild group. The Pitates flew the flag for the small market franchises. The Cardinals fly the flag for the fundamentally sound, “do it the right way” franchises. Texas overcame two consecutive years of ridiculous injuries. Toronto rolled the dice and went all in for this year and it worked. Even the mighty, deep pocket Yankees overachieved to the point where I respected them.

      It only left the Dodgers to hate.

      I get your point regarding the Royals SP – but I respectfully believe you’re undervaluing Yordano Ventura. He’s a top shelf talent. But…….you’re right about the remaining Royal SP. The reunion of Johnny Cueto and Edinson Volquez is sort of ironic. Those are the two guys the Rangers shipped to the Reds long ago for Josh Hamilton.

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      • sdcarp

        October 22, 2015

        Donnie Baseball will bounce back quickly. The Marlins covet him. His name has already been associated with the Nationals as well.

        The more relevant question (to me) is “where did our Donnie Dinger go?.” The place isn’t the same without him.

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        • sdcarp

          October 22, 2015

          Donnie Baseball is probably psyched he no longer has to deal with Yaisel Puig and Andre Ethier.

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          • Bob K.

            October 22, 2015

            Yes, and from what I read he gets paid by the Dodgers next for doing nothing. Pretty good work if you can get it.

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    • rockymountainhigh

      October 22, 2015

      The Rockies just lost their chance to hire Bud Black. Now Mr. Monfart can watch him sign on with the Dodgers and torment us in head-to-head games.

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      • sdcarp

        October 22, 2015

        You’re giving Monfart WAY too much credit. He can’t wrap his head around something as progressive (and expensive) as Black.

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      • sdcarp

        October 22, 2015

        RMH – I saw a tweet (so it has to be correct – right?) that Gabe Kapler is a clear front-runner for the Dodgers job. He’s currently the Dodger’s Director of Player Development, and not far removed from being a player.

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        • Mike Raysfan

          October 22, 2015

          I’m sure this speculation is a result of their (Friedman and Kapler) days with the Rays

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    • sdcarp

      October 22, 2015

      So early indications are Scott Servais to Seattle and Gabe Kapler to LA (Kapler is very, very early speculation). But in both cases, we’re talking about younger, more analytical receptive types. As Mike RaysFan notes – Friedman and Kapler have a history (along with David Price!). The Nats seem to be toying with the older school guys (Gardenhire, Baker) and it’s hard to say with the Marlins – Loria is a wacky as Monfart.

      If I’m Mattingly, I sit out a year and survey the landscape.

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    • sdcarp

      October 23, 2015

      It’s interesting to me – Ryne Sanberg’s name is not coming up as being associated with any of these openings. I for you certainly don’t hold his Phillies Managerial experience against him – that was a hopeless situation by the time he got there. Unlike guys like Servais – Ryno DID Manage in the Minors for a while before his Major League stint.

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      • Gary

        October 24, 2015

        Sandberg quit on the Cubs [as a player],and on the Phils [as manager],so any GM has to be gun shy about his commitment and sanity.

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    • roxnsox

      October 23, 2015

      Verducci is nearly as good in the booth as he is a writer. (Small pleasures)

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    • Julian

      October 24, 2015

      So, two teams in the World Series which drafted well and did a good job of player development. If only it were us.

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    • Agbayani

      October 24, 2015

      Julian, I was watching last night thinking “exactly how does this Royals team do it?” and I started thinking back to the 2007 Rockies. Lots of good home grown talent, no MVP style hitters but a deep lineup, no pitching stars (until Cueto arrived) but almost always good enough to stay in games. If only we’d had their bullpen. It can be done again here! Meanwhile, the Blue Jays not managing to get that tying run home — runner on 3rd, no outs — looked more like the Rockies of recent years, not even managing to get the ball in play when that likely would’ve done it. Oh, and a Tulo pop-out and strikeout with men on base didn’t help either …

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    • sdcarp

      October 24, 2015

      The Royals ascent to the top was quite a bit different than the relatively meteoric rises of the Cubs, Astro’s, and Mets. The Royals started stockpiling minor league talent in 2003-2007 time range to the point that their Farm was routinely ranked among the best in baseball. But their elite guys seemed to have a hard time transitioning to the Major League level. Alex Gordon faltered several times as a “can’t miss” 3rd baseman and ultimately needed a position change for things to click. Eric Hosmer was slow to adapt. Mike Moustakis was very slow to adapt.

      Much like the Rockies, the assets in the Royals Farm were weighted heavily towards offensive players. Then in late 2012, Drayton Moore made the “most boneheaded trade in Royals history” (what most called it at the time). He sent uber-prospect Wil Myers to TB for James Shields and a young, raw pitcher named Wade Davis.

      That trade was the inspiration for my mantra “draft the best available talent regardless of position” and is also the inspiration for my phrase “prospects are baseball currency.”

      With this example in mind – I agree with Ag – the Royals are the best model for us to emulate. Our pitching development is beyond miserable, but we’ve done a nice job with offensive guys (Tulo, NoDo, Helton, Fowler, etc). Now – we just need to have the balls to trade them to get the pitching we need.

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      • Agbayani

        October 27, 2015

        Great post, carp. By the way, payrolls at the start of the 2015 season:

        Rockies $97 million

        Mets 101

        Royals 112

        Of course, both teams added payroll for the stretch drive. But the Mets are strangely acting like a small market team and are succeeding at it. Payroll isn’t really an excuse anymore.

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        • sdcarp

          October 27, 2015

          Take a look at the freakin’ Astros – it’s something like 65M.

          The Cubs payroll is also very reasonable considering the size of their market and their TV contract. They’ll EASILY be able to sign one of these front line FA starting pitchers this offseason.

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        • sdcarp

          October 27, 2015

          It should also be noted that the Royals shrewdly (and realistically) recognized that they wouldn’t be able to resign Zack Greinke and moved him to the Brewers for Lorenzo Cain.

          These trades (Wil Myers and Zack Greinke) are the type moves Monfart can’t wrap his head around.

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    • sdcarp

      October 25, 2015

      Looks like Dusty Baker and Bud Black are the finalists for the Nat’s Manager’s position. If I’m the GM – I pick Black. That being said, the Nats are in “win now” mode and Dusty does OK with that.

      In the “truth is stranger than fiction category,” recently canned Philles (ex)GM has been hired as the Red Sox 1st base coach! What’s up with that?

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      • sdcarp

        October 25, 2015

        Oops – meant to add Ruben Amaro Jr (the ex-Philles GM) name to the post above.

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    • sdcarp

      October 27, 2015

      an old friend of our in action in the AFL (courtesy of “talking chop”). It’s really a shame that were so stocked with pitching we couldn’t protect him (snark intended!):

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      Surprise Saguaros 6 vs. Peoria Javelinas 1

      Box Score

      Daniel Winkler pitched an inning of relief in the game as well and he gave up an RBI double while striking out a batter. Winkler has appeared in 3 games as well and sports an ERA of 6.00 (2 earned runs in 3 innings pitched). Winkler is coming back from Tommy John surgery and while his stat line doesn’t necessarily jump off the page, he has struck out 5 batters in 3 innings of work so it appears he is recovering nicely from what was ultimately a lost season for him.

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    • sdcarp

      October 27, 2015

      This Royals – Mets game is awesome. Both teams are so fundamentally sound. Textbook base running.

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    • Bill

      October 28, 2015

      Great game tonight. It’s actually fun to watch a game that you really don’t care who wins. I’m a Rockie fan first and a Yankee fan second (although one for 65 years or so) but my son-in-law is a Mets fanatic (more than a fan) and my grandson and son are Royals fans. I had hoped the game would go 15 but 14 is close enough.

      Ex Rockies in the game didn’t do much Cuddyer struck out 3 times and Morales didn’t get in the game. Did I miss anyone? Hochever, who is from Colorado, didn’t allow a run. Newandies (spelling?) pinch hit and didn’t get a hit. Since I’m a Yankee fan I also tracked ex-Yankees. Granderson did well although he didn’t throw out runner at home on last play and Colon pitched ok until the 14th. Frankly I would have kept Niese in for more innings. I’m guessing that Herrara who 30+ pitches isn’t available for more than a batter tomorrow.

      I hope we have 6 more extra inning games. I don’t care who wins.

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      • Pooter

        October 28, 2015

        Ol Cuddy looks old! and a little out of shape….

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      • RocketMan

        October 28, 2015

        I’m shocked, SHOCKED, at the quality of baseball being played. It’s like these teams on are a completely different level than the Rockies. Every at-bat, every pitch. It’s really entertaining to watch. I’m having trouble imagining we can ever get to this level of play, given how very few players we have that could be capable of playing this way for extended periods of time.

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        • sdcarp

          October 28, 2015

          ding, ding, ding, ding – winner, winner, Chicken Dinner!

          Blow it up – build it the correct way.

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    • sdcarp

      October 28, 2015

      Some good news – Kyle Freeland pitched 6 innings of 1 run ball and got the win last night for the mighty Salt River Rapters. 2K, 1BB.

      In my opinion, getting Freeland on track is a real key for the Rox organization. I’ll confess I wasn’t a fan of picking Freeland and have become less of a fan after the shoulder and elbow issues. I really hoping I’ll be proven wrong on this one.

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    • sdcarp

      October 28, 2015

      Byung-ho Park (1B) has been “posted” by the mighty Nexen Heroes. Translation – they’re willing to sell him to the highest bidder.

      Here’s a cut-and-paste from MLBTradeRumors:

      “In each of the last three seasons, the 29-year-old has registered a 1.000+ OPS. And he’s continued to improve: last season, Park posted career-best numbers in each of the triple-slash categories (.343/.436/.714) and blasted 53 home runs in 622 plate appearances (one year after swatting 52 long balls). There will be questions asked of his strikeouts, though, as Park went down on strikes in about a quarter of his plate appearances in each of the last two seasons.”

      I’m intrigued because his (former) teammate Jung-ho Kang had a really nice, useful season for the Pirates, and it’s my understanding Park is generally thought of as a better offensive player (than Kang). I’m not Jose Dariel Abreu level of intrigued – but I’m intrigued.

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    • sdcarp

      October 29, 2015

      RMH’s dream is dead – Bud Black to be named Manager of the Nationals.

      Alex Anthoupolis steps down as Toronto GM. This seems to be an internal power struggle between Mark Shapiro and AA. AA was “the” up and coming GM prodigy when he was with Seattle. I really liked the fact that the Jays went all in for this season, but AA gave up a lot to do it. No the Jays are stuck with some old expensive guys (Bautista, E-squared, Tulo) and are really screwed if David Price signs elsewhere.

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      • sdcarp

        October 29, 2015

        Even more red hot Hot Stove news:

        Donnie Baseball to the Marlins.

        Donnie Dinger still MIA.

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        • sdcarp

          October 29, 2015

          Something else that has caught my eye – DBacks AAA Manager Phil Nevin’s name has come up with a couple of these Managerial openings, and if I’m to believe what I read, he received a 2nd interview with the Padres (although it sounds like they’re going with Rick Sofield). Phil’s son Tyler is now in the Rox organization (he was the compensation pick courtesy of the Mets for signing Cuddyer).

          So……..he may be someone to track for the future Rockies Managerial opening.

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    • sdcarp

      October 29, 2015

      Really nice article on Rox Farm System courtesy of Purple Rox:

      http://www.purplerow.com/2015/10/28/9622460/colorado-rockies-prospects-player-development-zach-wilson

      I especially like the Ryan McMahon comments. I’m not sure that I agree with the final analysis (that he’ll play 3rd base in the Majors), but I DO agree with keeping him at 3rd as long as reasonably possible since it’s a “premium” position and the transition to 1B (if necessary) should be easy for a 3rd baseman.

      Also – Rox decline Morneau’s option. This one is sort of a no-brainer, but I don’t take “no brainers” for granted with Rockies. I’m not totally ruling him out as a Rockie in 2016. If he’s still a FA in February and can be had for 2-3M with some incentives, he could be a useful platoon option.

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      • rockymountainhigh

        October 30, 2015

        I read that article on the farm system. They’ve changed their philosophy of how to develop pitchers and players by focusing on the individuals rather than trying to fit the players into a template.

        sdcarp may have like the comments on McMahon, but I liked the talk about Antonio Senzatella better.

        Our farm is now top five by most accounts. We’ve been there before and didn’t accomplish anything. Hopefully this time around, we will have some talent bubbling up when they’re ready. This article didn’t even mention the 2015 draft picks which should follow the guys about 2-3 years ahead of them.

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        • sdcarp

          October 30, 2015

          I’m excited about Senzatella – no doubt about it.

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    • Julian

      October 30, 2015

      It’s hard to judge the information about the minor leaguers. What I’d love to see is something that says which of our guys made the post-season all star teams for their leagues, or where our best prospects rank as prospects overall at their position. My problem is that I read reports that make our guys sound pretty good, but I don’t know how that stacks against other teams’ prospects. I guess rankings of farm systems overall has some interest, but you could have a system that’s pretty good, but what we want is guys who are really excelling in the minors who look like they’ll be very strong major leaguers, not just guys who’ll make a major league time, but not excel.

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      • sdcarp

        October 30, 2015

        Julian – in my (not so) humble opinion – Farm Systems should be judged on “difference makers” instead of some sort of depth or minor league record equation.

        I’ll use the current Minnesota Twins as an example. Their Farm in recent years has been considered solid – but not great. Probably not top 10. HOWEVER, they’ve had Byron Buxton and Miguel Sano (and to lesser extent Eddie Rosario) come through that system. Buxton and Sano are uber Prospects. “Difference Makers.” Sano has already shown that to some extent. Buxton…..not yet. But these two guys could have a far bigger impact at the Major League level than 8-10 Tom Murphy’s, Trevor Story’s, Eddie Butler’s, etc combined. So in my mind, by this metric, in 2013 and 2014, I believe the Twins had a better Farm System than the Rockies – even though many experts will disagree.

        The Giants have a similar history to the recent Twins. Their Farm as a whole never rates that high. But there’s always a few high impact Major League “Difference Makers” kicking around (Lincecum, Bumgarner, Zack Wheeler, etc).

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    • Julian

      October 30, 2015

      Carp, I agree with you.

      Do you think that we have any difference makers?

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      • sdcarp

        October 30, 2015

        Brendan Rogers may become one. He’s the only one that I see at the moment.

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      • rockymountainhigh

        October 31, 2015

        Jon Gray is another possible difference maker and he’s already up here.

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        • sdcarp

          November 1, 2015

          I totally,100% respect RMHs opinion on Gray – but I mildly disagree (and hopefully will be proven wrong). I see his ceiling as a strong #3 SP (which is absolutely fantastic – nothing sneeze at). For me, a “difference maker” pitcher is a #1 (by the other 29 teams standards, not the Rockies). So Noah Syndergaard is a difference maker. Marcus Stroman is probably a difference maker.

          I see guys like David Dahl, Ryan McMahon, Ramail Tapia, etc as potential really strong complimentary players. By “complimentary,” I mean everyday starters that may be even be an all-star in a peak, dream season. They’re critically important to a team. But just short of “difference maker.”

          FWIW – I see two current ML players similar to Dahl, Adam Eaton and Christian Yelich. Both of these guys are VERY solid players. Hopefully Dahl can match these guys.

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    • Bill

      October 30, 2015

      I thought that because the Rockies were playing Morneau 2/3 of the time in September (or more or less) they were either seeing if he could still play or advertising him so they could trade him. Then they don’t re-up him so they can’t trade him. I would have given Parker a month to see if he could play either a first or in left. Playing Morneau as much as they did was the real no-brainer but that’s how the Rockies work. No brains.

      It’s real disappointing that the Rockies continue to do what they do with regard to their young players. Letting Cargo play everyday is one thing because they control him and having him show the baseball world that he has talent raises his value. Whether the Rockies can take advantage of his value is another thing entirely. But the way they handled the Morneau thing has me baffled. Yes, I understand that he had little if any trade value when he was on the DL. When he came and he played I think he showed that he was still a big league player. But by not picking up his option he’s a complete free agent. Correct? Or maybe I’m missing something here.

      Interesting that Toronto swung for the fences and missed although they certainly made baseball exciting in Canada for awhile and it still may have lasting power. And the Yankees refused to do anything believing in their farm system. Remember it was in the early 90s when George Steinbrenner was banned from baseball that the Yankees held on to some of their prospects, Bernie Williams, Derek Jeter, Posada, Pettite, Riveria. George would have traded them. And they made some shrewd trades probably the best being trading Roberto Kelly for Paul O’Neil. (I’m going from memory here so I may be wrong).

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      • sdcarp

        October 30, 2015

        Bill – you are correct, Morneau is a complete Free Agent.

        No one was going to trade for Morneau due to the 9M club option. Why trade for him when he can be signed in the offseason for half of that and you don’t have to give up a player?

        One fundamental thing to keep in mind – for the most part, the other 29 Clubs are smart. So if we can figure it out here on RWO, odds are they figured it out months ago.

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    • Julian

      October 31, 2015

      Bill, I had asked about why we were playing Morneau as much as we were versus younger guys such as Parker. Maybe the team was assessing whether it would want to resign Morneau for next year on a less expensive contract. Or was the team just being nice and respectful to a veteran player.

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      • Doc

        October 31, 2015

        Starting Morneau most games puzzled me too. I decided they were showcasing him, not so much for what they could trade him for, but out of respect to the player–let him show possible future employers that he could still play thus ensuring a better contract. I remember thinking this would fit in with Charlie’s sense of family and reluctance to trade away his favorite players. Obviously, he could care less about how this sentimentality harms the team or alienates those of us who take the professional game seriously–in his mindset, he’s doing the right thing. Too bad for us.

        I think the Rox put a contract on the table so Morneau would have a bottom line. How realistic that offer is, is anyone’s guess. If he gets a better offer, great, but if not… I can see the Rox getting a hometown discount and expect to see him back in 2016.

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    • Gary

      October 31, 2015

      ATTENTION RWOers-especially Carp and Ag.Mike Maddux will NOT be returning to the Rangers as pitching coach.If we couldn’t get Bud Black how about Maddux as coach for one year and takes over for Walt when his contract is up.

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      • sdcarp

        October 31, 2015

        Well Gary – it’s no secret I’ve long been a Mike Maddux fan. In my opinion, pitching in the heat and wind in Texas is the next most challenging environment after Coors. The Rangers have been a perennial contender since he’s been there.

        It’s not too late to fire Walt, is it? Isn’t the “Walt is returning for 2016” just a dream?

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    • Agbayani

      October 31, 2015

      Dear Ned Yost,

      Re: Franklin Morales

      We told you so.

      Sincerely,

      Rockies Fans

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    • Bill

      October 31, 2015

      Frankie Morales brought back (unpleasant) memories last night. I’ve always thought he had great talent but he’s had moments when he just overthinks and lets the pressure get to him. But since I’m rooting for a 7 game series I was glad to see it.

      By the way somebody at the Denver Post must be looking out for him. In this morning’s paper (delivered late as usual) the box score completely leaves out Morales. I was reading the box score this morning and his name and his line was missing. Doubly ironic to me because around 65 years ago my Uncle taught me how to read box scores when I was a little boy. And his job his entire working life was as a proof-reader for a newspaper. He would have caught that.

      And he would have caught the error in the story about DU hockey which said that after DU lost to Boston College last night the two teams would play again this afternoon. Actually DU plays Boston University this afternoon. Well I guess they do. All my information on that is from the Post. Don’t get me started on the Post. Ever since the Rocky closed down the Post has gotten worse and worse every year (or every day).

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    • sdcarp

      October 31, 2015

      Frankie is living proof of the old adage that goes something like “LHed pitchers that throw hard get more chances than anyone else in baseball.”

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    • sdcarp

      October 31, 2015

      Regarding Mike Maddux – if I owned the Rox (I obviously don’t!), I’d create a position for him and hire him immediately with the idea he’ll become Manager within the next year. He’s too much of a talent to let pass.

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      • IggyRox

        November 1, 2015

        They could have had Bud Black too.

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      • Gary

        November 3, 2015

        Kind of my point above.

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    • Bill

      November 1, 2015

      Broncos are honoring Pat Bowlen today. Quite a difference between Bowlen and the Monfarts. Of course he made mistakes, but more Super Bowls than losing seasons says quite a lot. He probably gave Shanahan too much power and kept him too long and made a big mistake in hiring McDanial but didn’t let him stay too long and then hired a football man to be in charge of the football stuff.

      And while I would like the Rockies to hire Maddux I’m not sure what good it would do. The first step the Rockies need to do is hire a baseball ball man to be in charge of the baseball stuff. I’m sure they would do it because Dick (or is it Charlie) thinks he knows everything.

      Maybe they can think outside the box and sign Zach Greinke to be both pitcher and president of baseball operations. Greinke wants to run a team when he retires. I know it’s November 1st instead of April Fool’s Day but basically there have been good baseball people available (and still are) and the Rockies stick their guys because they didn’t lose 100 games.

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      • IggyRox

        November 1, 2015

        There is some irony in the fact that the potentially clinching game of the World Series will be on TV opposite the Broncos and Packers. Green Bay doesn’t have a MLB team, so they don’t care about KC and the Mets. Denver doesn’t have a MLB team either, so Fox knows nobody a Mile High gives a hoot.

        But let’s go to a parallel universe for a moment. What if the Rockies were a real baseball team, and playing in the World Series vs. the Royals at Coors Field tonight? Which game would you attend (yes, RWO, I know which you would attend, but I copied this post from a Facebook post I just put out)? Which game would you watch on TV? Perhaps the answer to that question is part of the reason the ownership of the baseball team will never put a winning product on the field. Simply put, 8 days a week a regular season NFL game in Denver between Green Bay and Denver will outdraw Game 5 of the World Series, even if it’s being played here and our team is playing.

        Sad, isn’t it?

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    • sdcarp

      November 2, 2015

      One thing I’ve long opined about the Rox (since the team’s inception) is that we’ve really never had a true base stealer. Last night, when the Royals brought in Jarrod Dyson, everyone on the planet knew his task, but it didn’t matter. He easily stole 2nd. In my opinion, when building a 25 man roster, there should be a player that can pull that move off on a regular basis. The player doesn’t have to be a starter (for example – Dyson rarely starts for the Royals). The 4th OFer and/or reserve MIer can easily fill that role. Having a player like this could steal (pardon the pun) a couple of road wins a year.

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      • Agbayani

        November 2, 2015

        Question: check out this article by Joe Posnanski, written in 2011, under the guise of “looking back” from 2015. He nailed it. Wrong in some specifics, but right in general. If you’re writing the same kind of piece, “looking back” from, say, November 2019, what do you write about the Rockies?

        http://www.si.com/mlb/2014/10/19/si-vault-kansas-city-royals-world-series-joe-posnanski#

        Switching gears: As for true base stealers … we did have EY Sr. And Juan Pierre. And Willy Taveras. And about 2/3 of a season of Kaz Matsui — the only good 100 game stretch of his MLB career. Still, carp, I agree with your point, and I’m something of a recent convert to this: speed, particularly in the OF, just plain works for the Rockies. Not Charlie Blackmon speed (which is of the “runs well” variety), not just Dexter Fowler speed (which is of the “really fast, but doesn’t have the base stealing skills” variety), but the Taveras variety. The guy who can steal a bag when everyone knows he’s going. And the Royals have stockpiled those guys. Cain is the one who broke through and became a real hitter along the way, but they also have Dyson (a late bloomer/bench guy who did nothing till he was about 28) and Gore (who still has done nothing, but man can he fly). Of course, the Royals have the advantage of the DH so they can carry an extra baserunning/defense specialist.

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        • sdcarp

          November 2, 2015

          Ag – you’re 100% correct, we’ve had a few guys that could have filled the “disruptive, base stealer” role, but we didn’t really use them that way on a consistent basis. EYjr just wasn’t good enough as a hitter nor fielder. As you note, Fowler couldn’t read pitchers/catchers, and we missed the prime Pierre/Tavares years.

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          • sdcarp

            November 3, 2015

            BTW – nice article, thanks for the link!

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          • Gary

            November 3, 2015

            EYjr.and his agent-Pooter-are probably available.Base stealing is becoming a lost art in baseball.You guys are also backhandedly “dissing” C.Blackmon who was THIRD in all of baseball[I believe] in stolen bases.I think the big difference is not having a second threat ala Taveras/Maz or Denier/Sandberg.The days of V.Coleman,Henderson,Lopes,Wills et.al.are but distant memories.

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    • Julian

      November 2, 2015

      Freeland pitched five scoreless innings today in the AFL. After a terrible first outing, he appears to have pitched well.

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      • sdcarp

        November 2, 2015

        That’s awesome – two consecutive really solid starts.

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    • sdcarp

      November 2, 2015

      RMH – your Bud Black dream may still have a pulse, looks like the Nats are turning their focus to Dusty Baker.

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    • Agbayani

      November 3, 2015

      carp, I’ve got this idea that the 2007 Rockies really weren’t that different from the 2014-15 Royals. Look at the speed at the top of the order just in terms of stolen bases:

      Taveras: 33 of 42
      Matsui: 32 of 36

      That’s 65 steals in 76 attempts. An 86 % rate. The rest of the team didn’t do a whole lot on the basepaths, but Willy and Kaz had the ability to put the pressure on a defense and added a different dimension to the offense, the old “manufacturing runs” thing.

      And look at the Royals starting pitching — there’s one guy, Ventura, who’s a homegrown pitcher with #1 or 2 talent. Who else? Edinson Volquez. Jeremy Guthrie. Chris Young for goodness sake. Top draft picks who didn’t pan out turned into solid bullpen guys (Luke Hochevar).

      What have they had that we haven’t? Mostly patience. Patience until they made the big Shields/Davis for Wil Myers trade back in the 2012-13 offseason.

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      • sdcarp

        November 3, 2015

        It always blew my mind that we had that “blip on the radar” base stealing/speed 2007 year and never really went back to it.

        Ag – you know I frequently rail against the failure of Rockies player development at the minor league level (mainly pitching development). But when you look at that 2007 roster (I just re-looked at it to jog my memory), there were a lot of promising, good, young players – mostly offense. Tulo, Iannetta, Stewart, Ubaldo, Holliday, Seth Smith, and even Tavares was 26/27 (I mis-remembered him as being older) on the Major League roster.

        So take that one step farther (while being cognizant of our mid-market budget). We did really well with the Holliday trade (Cargo, Street). The Iannetta trade (Chatwood) has basically been a disaster. We did net LeMahieu for Stewart. The Ubaldo trade was a disaster. The Seth Smith trade to Oakland was worse than a disaster.

        I’m rambling here – the point I’m trying to get at (and I recently mentioned this), we actually do OK with offensive player development. Maybe even better than “OK.” But we’re miserable with pitching development. That lack of pitching development then forces us into trading for pitching (I’m OK with this) – but we then compound our problem by being miserable at judging the pitching talent (Ubaldo and Seth Smith trades for example) we get in return for our trades (or just plain unlucky (Chatwood in return for Iannetta)).

        Honestly, the Rockies would do really well to hire Mike Maddux or Bud Black and create a position of “High Exalted Mystic Ruler of Pitching.” I realize we have this Mark Wiley character as Director of Pitching Operations.” (I’m not at all impressed with the Wiley character). But even if we kept Wiley, Maddux or Black could be his boss. We have to do fundamentally better with pitching. Not just development, but even picking the guys we choose to trade for, sign as free agents, or draft.

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    • Agbayani

      November 3, 2015

      Carp, some of it really is just patience. The Ubaldo trade: yeah, Pomeranz and White were total busts. Or maybe Pomeranz wasn’t after all; Pom with the A’s: 10-10, 3.08, 8.5 K/9, 3.2 BB/9. That’s about half of his innings as a starter, half in relief. That’s why I mentioned KC and Hochevar. Look at his ERAs his first 5 seasons, all as a starter: 5.51, 6.55, 4.81, 4.68, 5.73. And after that putrid run … Dayton Moore resigns him (arb eligible, $4.5 million!) with the idea of converting him to the bullpen. Royals fans thought Moore had lost it. And Hochevar since that time? 2.69 ERA, and a critical part of this year’s WS champs bullpen. Meanwhile, for Pom we got a month or so of Brett Anderson at 10 million bucks. And the Royals have stuck with other guys too. Alex Gordon didn’t break out until his 5th season, and only after they moved him to LF. Moustakas’s first 4 seasons in OPS+ (100 is average): 86, 91, 77, 75. Bust! He was the 2nd overall pick! But he played good defense at 3B and Moore still believed in his talent; Moore trusted his own judgment instead of second guessing himself repeatedly. Moore re-signed him (arb eligible) for $2.6 million. Moustakas rewarded that patience with a 120 OPS+ season this year, good for a 3.8 WAR.

      Under O’Dowd’s continuing desperation to get to .500 and to remain nominally in contention through August (thereby keeping his job), guys like Hochevar, Gordon, and Moustakas would have been long gone before they proved their value. Let’s hope Bridich is watching.

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      • sdcarp

        November 3, 2015

        You’re correct – somewhere above I mention the slow development of Gordon and Moustakas. They have been very patient.

        But they also never pretended (at least not that I remember) to be a contender anywhere in that 2006-2013 window. They always had a target (or as I frequently say – “window”) in mind. They made their moves with that window in mind. I really think Monfart believes that by signing Morneau or Cuddyer of Guthrie that he can contend the next season. He has a fundamental lack of understanding of what it takes to contend.

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    • Bill

      November 3, 2015

      I believe in either 2007 or 2009 Rockies played a playoff or world series game in Coors at the same time Broncos were playing on Monday night football. That time I watched the Rockies. I have no idea what game drew better ratings here or nationally. I’m guessing here it would still be the Broncos because this is a Bronco town plain and simple and I don’t think it was in the Josh McDaniel era. On Sunday night I turned my small kitchen TV around so I could watch the Broncos on the big TV and the baseball game on the small one. If the Rockies had been playing I would have watched the Rockies on the big-screen.

      Speed kills as some of the posts above talked about. It especially kills when the other team doesn’t play good defense. The Mets catchers (with help from their pitchers) did not throw out a base-stealer for more than a month. David Wright WAS a good fielder not any more. Lucas Duda is probably better than our favorite non-catcher Wilin Rosario, Murphy cost himself millions of dollars with his errors in the last two games. Cespedes has a great arm but you have to catch the ball first. Royals ran far less when they played the Blue Jays because the Blue Jays could catch and throw the ball but of course they won the deciding game when Cain scored from 1st when Bautista was still thinking about his 2nd home-run.

      The Rockies seemed to try to take an extra base plenty this past year but if they weren’t first in runners thrown out in that category they must have been pretty close. I don’t think it was all on the 3B coach. However the Dodgers did fire (or reassigned) their 3B coach when too many runners were thrown out and hired Ron Roenickie. (I’m sure I just butchered his name). And of course the Rockies keep their manager and all their coaches because – well they are good guys.

      Bud Black, Bud Black, Bud Black. Somebody send Monfart his phone number or email address. Offer him any job in the organization from President to GM to manager to pitching coach. There is still a chance to hire him. And let me throw another baseball name out there who I think would make a good exec. or manager although he probably doesn’t want to work that hard. Paul O’Neill. Won world championships in both leagues, a ferocious competitor who would push himself and his teammates hard if need be. I’ve heard him talk baseball and he’s very smart. And he likes the Denver area. Heard him say that he really loved the area in his one year of playing for the Zeyphers.

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      • sdcarp

        November 3, 2015

        Bill – if you believe what you read, the Nats offered Black 1.6M, and he was appalled at the lowball offer.

        To put that in perspective, we paid (or are paying) Boone Logan 15M over 3 years.

        Let me ask the entire RWO crowd, for 3 years, 15M dollars, who could have a bigger positive impact on the Rockies future, Bud Black or Boone Logan? DUH!!!!!! It’s hard to calculate the value of a Bud Black or Mike Maddux, buts it’s WAY more than Boone Logan. Pay what it takes to sign one of those guys up, and then listen to them!

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        • Bill

          November 3, 2015

          I agree. Some of these player contracts for players beyond their prime is incredible. Michael Cuddyer who I believe started the first game in the playoffs for the Mets and virtually disappeared after that is due for for a 4 million dollar raise next year. Luckily that was one (maybe the only one?) of Bridich’s good moves.

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          • sdcarp

            November 4, 2015

            Bill – the thing I find humorous is that our cheap a** penny pinching Owner will occasionally venture out and give some washed up veteran a nice contract (Logan, Cuddyer, Morneau for example) and sometimes get some nice mileage out of said contract.

            But he would be MUCH better off spending that money on infrastructure to establish a sustainable, renewable base of cheap, young players. I don’t fault Monfort for being a penny pincher (in fact, I have a great deal of respect for that), I fault home be being a (baseball) dumb penny pincher.

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            • sdcarp

              November 4, 2015

              My point above is……for Logan’s 15M contract, I’m guessing you could have a Mike Maddux / Bud Black type pitching guru AND establish a Complex League team in Phoenix. That’s an infinitely more sustainable model than buying old players.

      • Bill

        November 4, 2015

        Maybe Dick Montfert subscribes to the theory my mother would tell me when I wanted to do something she didn’t want me to do, “just because everybody is doing it, doesn’t make it right.”

        But my mother (and father) had some success raising kids, other than being the only team that’s never lost 100 games the “woe is me” Rockies haven’t had much success. I know they keep hoping for another September and October of 2007 but you would think the Rockies would use every available outlet and idea to try to win. If they really wanted to win.

        By the way I usually did what I wanted but didn’t tell Ma.

        Read something that the Dodgers have interviewed Kirk Gibson for their managerial opening. I presume that both the Dodgers and Gibson have done their homework. But Gibson has Parkinson’s Disease. Unfortunately I am familiar with similar type diseases and one thing that usually increases the intensity of the these diseases is stress. I’m guessing that the Dodger job will comes with lots of stress. Now Gibson was able to overcome some very big obstacles and perhaps his hiring will highlight the devastating effect these diseases have on both the patient and his or her family and spur more research into finding cures. I still remember almost driving off the road in 1988 listening to his WS home-run.

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    • sdcarp

      November 4, 2015

      Take Gonzalez German (the man with two last names) off the 40 man roster. He’s elected free agency rather than accepting an outright assignment to the minors.

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      • Gary

        November 4, 2015

        I can live with that,but not sure Walt can.He seemed to use this guy every day.

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    • Gary

      November 4, 2015

      Ag,Chris Martin released by Yankees.

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    • Julian

      November 4, 2015

      Raimel Tapia goes 4 – 4 today, including an inside the park HR and a double (his third), plus 2 RBIs. His batting average rose to an even .300. Not bad for a 21 year old in the AFL.

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      • sdcarp

        November 4, 2015

        I’ve thought about this some since I posted the link.

        Keeping in mind I live by the KISS principle (Keep It Simple Stupid), he’s my deductive reasoning:

        1. We know Boras like to take his clients to Free Agency.
        2. We know he was seething mad when Cargo signed a Club friendly contract.
        3. We can deduce that if NoDo wanted to go to Free Agency, he would certainly be aligned with Boras and a change wouldn’t seem necessary.
        4. BUT – if NoDo want to sign long term and Boras was balking, there are plenty of other Agents knocking on his door.

        Keep in mind one of the premises in my nuclear rebuild option was trading NoDo because I thought he’d be a FA by the time our playoff window opens if the Clown Show gets their act together. If Bridich gets rid of Cargo’s remaining 37M (easy) and can get rid of say 10M of Reyes’s 47M……and of course the real Tulo savings will kick in in 2018 – NoDo can be signed, sealed, and delivered for essentially no payroll increase.

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        • roxnsox

          November 5, 2015

          I like the way you’re thinking!

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    • rockymountainhigh

      November 5, 2015

      It was a nice break to step away from RWO and I’m getting my batteries recharged. I appreciate sdcarp and others keeping RWO updated while the regular writers went fishing as soon as the season ended.

      This morning I was getting caught up on the Rockies’ news. That made my day or maybe actually “made my YEAR” when Arenado dumped Bor-ass. I was thinking I wanted to buy the Arenado jersey since the Tulo trade (I currently have the Tulo with WS patch jersey) but I kept reminding myself that NoDo might not be around much longer cuz of Bor-ass. I’m so thrilled as I’m interpreting that he wants to be the face of the franchise and take it upon himself to see that the Rox get back into the post-season the the aforementioned window mentioned by sdcarp.

      I watched the WS and there were a few intangibles they had that I could not quite put my finger on, but the announcers lit my light bulb. Rotation so-so (I mean compared to, for example, the NYM, Dodgers, Cards) but bullpen was totally dominant. So the Rox should focus on the bullpen more than the rotation, but still upgrade the rotation but not at the Kershaw/Greinke level. More like the KC level which is very doable within the Rockies template.

      The Royals had supreme confidence in the bullpen that they were not worried about behind behind a run or two in the late innings. As it turned out, KC scored more runs in late situations than early-middle part of the games. We can easily match up with any offense as the Rockies’ history shows.

      The Royals score a lot of runs late – why????? They have very few Ks and always put the ball in play. Put balls in play. Put balls in play. Put balls in play. It helped that KC had speed which the Rockies lacked. Are you listening Rockies’ hitters????? PUT THE BALL IN PLAY.

      To sum it up, I don’t think the Rockies are that far off from the Royals’ template. Just need to upgrade rotation and have shutdown bullpen (at least 3-4 arms at back end). Get David Dahl up here to add speed.

      Are you watching other sports franchises, Monfart brothers? The Nuggets fired Brian Shaw cuz he was incompatible with the skill set at altitude and drafted Emmnual Mudiay and let him be the leader and learn the hard way as a starter fresh out of the draft. Or how about the Detroit Lions? They cleaned out just about the entire house including just about everybody in the executive suites.

      So come on, Monfarts – I’m still waiting for my dream hire – Bud Black or Mike Maddux.

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      • sdcarp

        November 5, 2015

        Good to have you back from the fishing trip RMH!

        Our friend Ag has been pointing the Royals’ model for a while as well. I don’t disagree but do caution that while the Royals don’t have the elite, shut-down SP pitching of the Mets/Cards/Dodgers, they’re not “bad.” They can also entice FA’s to sign there.

        I fear that we’ll never be able to entice top level (or even mid-level) FA SPers to sign up to pitch half their games at 5280. So we can follow the Royals model everywhere except SP, but we need be prepared to develop our on SP……..virtually all of it. That’s why I continually plea for SP “volume” in the Farm system. This is also why I don’t think we’re as close as some others do. It takes longer to develop SP (most of the time).

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      • Agbayani

        November 6, 2015

        It is good to have you back, RMH. PUT THE BALL IN PLAY! I couldn’t agree more, particularly for a team that plays half its games in Coors Field which turns balls in play into hits (and doubles, and triples) at a higher rate than any other park. Seems like a no-brainer, right?

        And we do have the potential bullpen arms. Miguel Castro looks like he’ll probably stay in the pen. He’s 20 year old. Kelvin Herrera pitched very little at any level until he was 22, and there wasn’t a whole lot in the stats to suggest he’d be a future shut-down setup man. Then all of a sudden he was. I know people question our pitcher development. I really don’t. As carp suggests, a lot of this is luck and requires stockpiling great young arms since the hit percentage is fairly low. That’s what we’re doing. It takes patience, and that’s what’s been lacking.

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    • rockymountainhigh

      November 5, 2015

      http://www.purplerow.com/2015/11/5/9672584/colorado-rockies-player-development-grand-junction-brendan-rodgers-peter-lambert

      This is a great article and gives me a lot of warmth during the long, cold winter. It looks like the Grand Junction coach staff has been instrumental in developing the players.

      High praise for Brennan Rodgers as expected and he even learned to speak Spanish so he can hang out with his teammates.

      I loved the reports on three pitchers drafted this year: Peter Lambert, Parker French, and Javier Medina. My favorite snippet – French issued two walks in 48.1 innings for a 0.37 BB/9 ratio. Yahoo! My friends, here’s the next Dennis Eckersley with pinpoint control which we so badly need at Coors Field. (RWOers know I go nuts if pitchers issue so many walks)

      The article didn’t even mention Tyler Nevin. So 2015 was a great draft year (so far). Don’t forget we have Kevin Padlo and his speed in Boise. And Forrest Wall/Raimel Tapia moving through the pipeline. Close by is Ryan McMahon and David Dahl.

      I”m posing a very interesting question for you RWOers: If we are really going to trade for upper-grade type pitcher, which prospects are you willing to give up?

      My guesses: if NoDo signs long term contract, then we can toss in McMahon in a package. Dahl should be untouchable as we have a need for speed. Tapia can be thrown in the package if Blackmon/Dickerson/CarGo (if he stays).

      Or we can trade away veterans while their values are high: LeMahieu and CarGo. I like sdcarp’s idea of setting up the lemonade stand at the entry to the winter meetings with CarGo available for trade in exchange for pitchers.

      Another caveat – if we give up a couple of prospects, then we must throw in Reyes as “compensation” for giving up our prospects (like Toronto added Reyes’ salary with the three pitching prospects we got). Now without Reyes and CarGo we can really go after even a David Price type pitcher. That will be enough incentive for NoDo to sign an eight-year contract similar to Giancarlo Stanton or Mike Trout.

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    • Gary

      November 5, 2015

      Update on Chris Martin.His contract was sold to Japanese team.Sorry Ag.But it looks like Jeremy Guthrie may become available so there’s always that.

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    • Agbayani

      November 6, 2015

      Gary, I’m glad someone remembers my Chris Martin fandom. I’ll be watching his Japan League stats! As for Guthrie … hmm, let me think of the best stat for that one … wait, I’ve got it!

      World Series Championship Rings:

      Guthrie 1

      All Monforts Combined 0

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      • Gary

        November 7, 2015

        I think the Royals banned bike riding in his contract which allowed him to barely serviceable.

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    • Julian

      November 7, 2015

      RMH, I think that you trade CarGo for pitching this offseason. We should be able to get two or three solid prospects for him from a team that thinks that it is close.

      I’m reluctant to trade top level prospects at this point.

      You trade Reyes to a team badly in need of infielders who has an overpriced pitcher that it wants to unload that still is good enough to pitch in our rotation (so, he doesn’t have to be that good). Hopefully, the pitcher’s contract doesn’t go for more than two years. You might end up eating some of Reyes’ salary.

      I think that you hold onto Nolen, DJ and Charlie for now. Depending on how things go with the trade of CarGo and the development of Dahl and Tapia, I could see Charlie being traded at the trading deadline or next offseason.

      I’m worried about Corey’s health and durability. Is he done dealing with the plantar fasciitis? If he’s not, then playing LF at Coors is a terrible idea. He should either be retooled as a 1B or traded to an AL team. We know that he can hit.

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      • Bill

        November 7, 2015

        My son-in-law is a Mets fan and texted the Murphy rumor. Murphy had a super week. That’s it one week! We know he’s a lousy fielding 2B and I don’t think he’s great shakes at 1B either. They can’t be serious. But of course they probably are.

        3 words for Dick and CharlIe” PITCHING, PITCHING, PITCHING.

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    • rockymountainhigh

      November 7, 2015

      NO NO NO to Dan Murphy. He can’t field.

      I’ll modify Bill’s bold comment: “PITCHERS THAT DO NOT NOT NOT WALK HITTERS”

      When can you arrive in Denver Parker French?

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    • sdcarp

      November 7, 2015

      I’ll stay away from a Daniel Murphy analysis and talk in “broader” terms.

      The Rockies are dumb asses if they sign ANY player with a qualifying offer – PERIOD. Sure, our first pick is protected, but the 2016 amateur draft should be the deepest in recent memory and we need to shrewdly use our 2nd pick as well (it could be as good quality-wise as a mid-1st round pick this past year). This (any qualifying offer FA – not just Murphy) would also signal the continued dilusional belief that we’re close to contending. Another bandaid that won’t mask the institutional bad pitching.

      Byung-ho Park will be better than Murphy, roughly the same net cost, and won’t cost a draft pick.

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    • sdcarp

      November 7, 2015

      Update – teams that are saying they did NOT win the Byung Ho Park posting derby:

      Baltimore
      Boston
      Pittsburgh
      San Diego
      Texas
      Oakland
      Cleveland

      Don’t know if we should take this as a good sign, or simply that the national baseball press doesn’t check-in with the Rockies because we’ve managed to make ourselves irrelevant.

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      • sdcarp

        November 8, 2015

        More teams out of the BHP sweepstakes:

        Toronto
        LA – both teams
        NYM
        Detroit
        Nats
        Cards

        So if we believe the blog-o-sphere and Twitter, 14 teams are out.

        Let’s attempt some deductive reasoning to add to the list. Other teams with solid 1st basemen under contract:

        Chicago Cubs (Rizzo)
        Atlanta (Freeman)
        Arizona (Goldy)
        KC (Hosmer)
        CWS (Abreu)
        Minnesota (Mauer)
        NYY (Texiera and Bird)
        Cincinnati (Votto)
        San Francisco (Belt and Posey)

        Of course this is cloudy, especially with the AL teams that also have the DH slot, and even SF. But I’m up to 23 teams that either say they’re out (again – if you choose to believe what you read) or that just doesn’t make sense on the surface.

        Who does this leave?

        Colorado
        Miami
        Seattle
        Philadelphia
        Tampa Bay
        Milwaukee
        Houston

        Houston has a ton of sluggers and a loaded Farm, so let’s eliminate them. Now we’re down to 6. Seattle has a desparate need at 1B and has a history with foreign players (Ichiro). So I’ll make them the favorite.

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        • sdcarp

          November 8, 2015

          BTW – here’s why I like Byung-ho Park:

          1. Ridiculous numbers in Korea. Now……you should say “whoopy skip – that doesn’t mean shit sdcarp.” And I would agree except that his former teammate Kang did a really, really nice job with Pittsburgh this past year. Park is generally considered the better offensive player of the two. So I think it does translate a bit. Not Jose Abreu level…..but could be really solid.
          2. He’s RHed – which leaves Ben Paulsen in a really nice place as a semi-platoon 1B and 4/5th outfielder. I think this is a good role for Ben.
          3. No compensation pick.
          4. It’s the biggest hole (1B) in our farm system – caveat – Ryan McMahon’s destination may be 1B, but for now we have a void at that position.
          4. He’s got a wicked crazy bat flip.

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    • sdcarp

      November 7, 2015

      In the good news department – Kyle Freeland and Raimel Tapia have made the AFL all-star team. Don’t get too excited, seems like about half the players make this team. BUT – this is a very good sign for Freeland after a disasterous 1st start in the AFL. Very nice bounce back.

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    • Julian

      November 8, 2015

      Freeland didn’t pitch well in the all star game, but at least he made it. I think that some of the Rockies relievers have also pitched well in the AFL.

      No way should we go after Murphy. I have no idea why we’d go after any position player in free agency, short of a one year deal with a midlevel player. Repeat the mantra: save our money, and focus on the contention window. Believe in and develop our prospects, and save our dollars for pitchers. If we are going to have weak starting pitchers, maybe we can overpay for relievers and attract one or two to sign with us.

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      • sdcarp

        November 8, 2015

        Julian – there’s one guy I like “IF” we trade Cargo. Austin Jackson. Jackson is in desparate need of a 1 year pillow contract. I would sign him (if there’s an outfield vacancy so that he can play everyday), hope that he has that Coors bounce back like Cuddyer and Morneau experienced, then flip him at the deadline. He would be a very attractive 6 week rental to a contender. Keep in mind our initial signings of Cuddyer and Morneau proved very shrewd – and only became failures once we failed to recognize the “sell high” slot.

        The thought above only applies if we trade Cargo (or Blackmon).

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      • rockymountainhigh

        November 9, 2015

        Carlos Estevez pitched in the East-West all star game, but he played in the same game as Raimel Tapia. Scouts reports (via MLB tv announcers) say – easy arm, big sized body frame, no secondary pitch. So sounds like good enough for lower levels, but won’t work at the MLB level without secondary pitch.

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    • Julian

      November 9, 2015

      Carp, MLBTraderumors predicts that Austin Jackson will make 12 million dollars on a one year contract. That seems like a lot for us to invest for an outfielder; if we can’t trade him due to injury or lack of performance, we’re out a lot of money. Of course, if we do trade CarGo for pitchers, who would be the right fielder if we have Corey in left and Charlie in center? Brandon seems like more of a fourth or fifth outfielder, and Kyle may start the year back in AAA to play every day. And it’s not realistic to expect Dahl, Patterson, and Tapia to be of assistance before late in the season. And Ben Paulson may be the first baseman. And I don’t want to see Ynoa on the major league roster. So, do the Rockies need to pick up an outfielder?

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      • sdcarp

        November 9, 2015

        Jackson is a great “risk” IF, IF, IF we trade Cargo and have committed to rebuilding. He holds the spot for 4 months, then you flip him for a pitching Prospect.

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    • rockymountainhigh

      November 9, 2015

      Minnesota wins the bid (negotiating rights) for BHP at $12.85M. Sounds like the Rox were close to winning, but no cigar.

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    • sdcarp

      November 9, 2015

      Gents – I started a Hot Stove Pre Winter Meetings 1A thread. I suggest we switch over to that one, that way we don’t have to wade through 250+ comments.

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