2018 Hot Stove Phase I (Post World Series to Winter Meetings/Rule 5 Draft 12/14/2017)

Houston Astros World Series Champions. Great story. It’s interesting to me that the 2014 Sports Illustrated story picking the post nuclear rebuild Astros as 2017 World Champions is getting so much publicity. Everyone has reasons to adopt a team after their favorite team (Rockies) has been eliminated. I know many liked the Astros due to the flood story. Others liked the Astros simply because they hate the Dodgers and their endless $$$$. I personally adopted the Astros because of the nuclear rebuild. What a great job post Ed Wade to recognize that the Organization as a whole was flawed and needed to be rebuilt from the ground up. Nicely done.

 

I propose posting all things Hot Stove here. RMH/Jeem…..feel free to add a cool picture!

 

Rockies big picture:

  1. Need offense.
  2. Need Bullpen replacements.
  3. Have some significant $$$$$ coming off the books.
  4. Need to decide what to do with Ryan McMahon (could help address #1).
  5. Need to get, and keep, David Dahl healthy (could help address #1).
  6. Need to extend Arenado.

I’m calling this Hot Stove Phase for all things through the Rule 5 draft.

127 Comments

    • roxnsox

      November 2, 2017

      What a great World Series. It made me think about how extremely hard it is to get that far, and how much excellence is needed in all aspects of the team. It also made me think that the Rockies are farther behind than I figured. If Jon Gray becomes a bona fide ace, that’ll help. Do we think that German Marquez is next in line for “really really good?” But these teams have at least TWO ELITE aces apiece, and good-to-great bullpen guys. Of course, the stars (excuse me, planets) have to align somewhat to win it all – one example, Charlie Morton being so good for the Astros when they took a flyer on him.

      Let Ryan McMahon step in and play! David Dahl, please don’t be Fine China redux!

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    • Bob K.

      November 2, 2017

      Top 50 MLB free agents and their possible signings.

      19. Brandon Morrow – Rockies. Three years, $24MM. Morrow followed an interesting path to becoming Kenley Jansen’s wingman for the Dodgers in the World Series. Drafted fifth overall by the Mariners in 2006, the hard-throwing righty and Type 1 diabetic skipped the minors and spent his Mariners career being almost comically jerked in and out of late inning relief and starting roles, battling injuries along the way. Then the Blue Jays traded for him and committed to a starting role, eventually buying out a free agent year and getting mixed results and a ton of time missed due to injuries from 2010-14. Morrow later landed with the Padres on a cheap free agent deal, making only five starts before a shoulder injury ended his season. Coming off shoulder surgery, he took a minor league deal to stay with the Padres in 2016. That was followed by a minor league deal with the Dodgers in January 2017, along with a full commitment to a relief role. Morrow didn’t get up with the Dodgers for good until late June. He wound up posting a 2.06 ERA, 10.3 K/9, and 1.9 BB/9 with no home runs allowed in 43 2/3 innings, with that excellence continuing into the postseason. The Dodgers rode him hard, using Morrow in all seven World Series games. As Andrew Stoeten wrote for Vice Sports, Morrow is easy to root for after all he’s been through. Though a three-year deal might not seem rational for a pitcher with Morrow’s injury history, it wasn’t for Ryan Madson either. We expect that to be the cost of doing business to acquire Morrow and his 98 mile per hour heater.

      20. Jonathan Lucroy – Rockies. Two years, $24MM. Lucroy, a 31-year-old catcher, has fallen far from the talk of a $100MM free agent deal. He still has a shot at three years, but a terrible start to the season with the Rangers killed much of his value. Lucroy spent many years as one of the game’s best-hitting catchers and one of the best pitch framers. Unfortunately, he dropped from 24 home runs last year to just six this year, and his framing numbers plummeted as well. Lucroy’s bat did bounce back somewhat in 46 games with the Rockies after a trade. One big issue is that there aren’t many teams seeking a catcher this winter. The Rockies would like to retain Lucroy but may not face much competition. The Diamondbacks, Athletics, and White Sox are plausible fits on paper as well. Lucroy may be well-served with a deal similar to Matt Wieters, with a player option for the second year.

      https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/11/2017-18-top-50-mlb-free-agents-with-predictions.html

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      • sdcarp

        November 2, 2017

        Bob – I made this post 11/08/2014:

        A name I want to throw out from this FA pool is Brandon Morrow. But not as a SP. I think he’s viable (in fact – extremely viable) if he can be convinced to go back to his relief pitching ML roots.

        Once considered the hardest tower in baseball (2008 – an occasional 100 mph offering) the Mariners brought him up and put him in their largely dysfunctional Pen. In fact, he even Closed a bit (16 saves over 2 years). But he wanted to start, and was ultimately traded to Toronto for then hot Closer Brandon League. In 2010 and 2011, he showed very small flashes of borderline dominance as a starter, but has all sorts of minor injuries. But…..no TJ, no shoulder surgeries. More like rib injuries, the dreaded intercostel, etc.

        I’ve seen estimates of him seeking a 2 year, 12M contract. I’d love to approach him and see if he’s receptive to going back to the Pen. I’m willing to bet he’d regain a good bit of his velocity (as a starter, he was typically in the 93mph range). He’s still only 30 (seems like he’s been around forever). In my opinion – he could easily equal the Matt Beslile of 3-4 years ago.

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        • Bob K.

          November 3, 2017

          I remember that post. My prediction is that Morrow remains a Dodger and does not sign with the Rockies.

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          • sdcarp

            November 3, 2017

            Remember one of my core theories – “throw enough shit at the wall….something will stick.” I get lucky every now and then.

            I hope you’re correct that Morrow doesn’t come to us. He was 30 in 2014 when I wrote this. So he’ll be 34 entering next season…..and he’s still injury prone.

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            • Bob K.

              November 3, 2017

              Another prediction is that if the Rockies give Cargo a QO, he will accept it. I seriously doubt that anyone is going to make him a $17.4 MM offer for one year and he may not get that much for a two year offer,

    • Bob K.

      November 4, 2017

      Almonte pitched one shut out inning with one K and one BB in the AFL All Star game tonight.

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    • sdcarp

      November 5, 2017

      Things that make you go “hmmmmm:”

      Tanaka (Yankees) opts “in” to remaining contract. The Yankees are probably OK with this.

      Cueto (Giants) also opts “in” to four years of remaining contract. Giants probably aren’t so happy with this.

      Cardinals have offered one Prospect (supposedly elite pitching Prospect) for Giancarlo Stanton. I find this mildly surprising. Stanton’s remaining contract (something like 12 more years and 300 million) is a huge boat anchor ala Albert Pujols. Surely the Cards are asking for salary help from the Marlins.

      The Marlins also say they want to deal Prado and Dee Gordon. Good luck with Prado. Gordon intrigues me. Semi-reasonable contract. Still a really good BA, SB threat. Scores tons of runs from the top of the lineup. Average defensively (I’m being kind….he’s probably below average). The Marlins will get something for him.

      Braves Uber Prospect Ronald Acuna is having a monster AFL. He’s my early pick for 2018 NL Rookie of the Year (I’m not exactly going out on a limb here).

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      • Bob K.

        November 5, 2017

        Ian Kennedy also opted “in” to his remaining contract. This was not any surprise at all due to the poor year he had.

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    • sdcarp

      November 6, 2017

      I present the 2019 version of 2017 Greg Holland…..Trevor Rosenthal, just released by the Cardinals:

      Rosenthal will miss most, if not all, of 2018 while recovering from Tommy John surgery so the Cards obviously didn’t want to give him a raise in his final year of arbitration eligibility. Some team might attempt to sign the former closer to a two-year deal or a one-year deal with an option, paying for his rehab in 2018 in hopes that they’ll get him at full strength for 2019.

      He’s a good risk.

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    • Agbayani

      November 6, 2017

      Thank goodness Holland opted out – I didn’t want this team to get stuck with another bad contract just when we’ve gotten out from Tulo (through Reyes) and Cargo. The Stanton trade rumor is intriguing – I have to imagine that anyone putting out feelers on him has to be demanding tons of salary relief from the Marlins.

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    • Agbayani

      November 6, 2017

      Arenado and Blackmon not MVP finalists? Goldschmidt, Votto, Stanton instead. I’m surprised there’s two guys from noncompetitive teams since we always hear that voters discount big statistical years that didn’t do much for their teams. Maybe Arenado and Blackmon split the vote. At any rate, Blackmon ought to be right there – it really was an incredible season, and done with solid defense at a premium position.

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      • Bob K.

        November 7, 2017

        This just proves what hypocrites the members of the BBWA are. They did not have any problem voting for Judge as an AL MVP candidate when his home road splits are far worse than either Blackmon or Arenado. Not to mention the fact that he struck out 204 times.

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    • sdcarp

      November 7, 2017

      Alright Bob K……….I lean on you for all things procedural. The Rox extend Greg Holland a QO, which he is expected to turn down. This means when he signs with another team, the Rox will receive a 2nd round draft pick (as opposed to 1st round under previous CBA) as compensation. Right? Or wrong?

      The Rox didn’t extend Cargo a qualifying offer because:
      A. He might have accepted.
      B. Even if he rejected, there is a real danger that another team might not meet his contract demands and he could well begin the season unsigned…hence no compensation for Rox anyway. Right? Or wrong?

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        • roxnsox

          November 7, 2017

          …aaaaand I’m behind the curve here, just read through all the comments

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      • Bob K.

        November 7, 2017

        http://m.mlb.com/news/article/259650658/mlb-qualifying-offer-rules-explained/

        Under the current QO rules, if Greg Holland signs with a different team for at least $50MM the Rockies will receive a draft pick after the first round and before the Competitive Balance Round A. If the signing is for less than $50MM the draft pick will be after the Competitive Balance Round B which is after the 2nd round. Of course there is the outside possibility that Holland will sign with the Rockies or accept the QO. Accepting the QO would give him a $2.4mm raise over the option he turned down. It would also make it so that he can never again be issued a QO. The current rumor is that the Cardinals very much want to sign Holland. I have seen predictions that he will get a contract anywhere from $48MM to $60MM.

        My assumption is that the Rockies did not offer Cargo a QO because he would have accepted it. Because of his down season it has largely been predicted that Cargo will have to sign a one year deal to reestablish his productivity and no one is predicting he will get a deal any where near the QO value. My understanding is that the Rockies are still trying to bring Cargo back for a lower value contract. I don’t think that your part B has any danger of happening since some team will sign Cargo. During the last several off seasons his agent, Scott Boras has shown an inclination to recommend a one year deal or accepting the QO in cases such as Cargo’s situation.

        In Holland’s case we should wish him the best luck in getting a contract over $50MM (as long as it is not with the Rockies) so that the Rockies can get the best draft pick available.

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        • sdcarp

          November 7, 2017

          Right on! Thanks. Good stuff.

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        • sdcarp

          November 8, 2017

          From MLB Trade Rumors;

          The Rockies made a qualifying offer to closer Greg Holland. They were a revenue sharing recipient and are subject to the same rules as the Royals, Rays, and Indians. Holland, too, is a borderline $50MM free agent, though he certainly figures to aim higher than that in the early stages of free agency. If he reaches $50MM+, the Rox will get a pick after the first round. If not, they’ll receive a pick after Comp Round B.

          Damn Bob….you’re good. So we should all be hoping Holland declines the offer, and gets 50M+ contract, and we get a higher draft pick.

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    • Bob K.

      November 7, 2017

      From MLBTradeRumors
      “The Rockies selected the contract of outfielder Noel Cuevas, per a club announcement. Acquired from the division-rival Dodgers in the trade that sent Juan Nicasio to Los Angeles, Cuevas blossomed at Triple-A Alburquerque in 2017. Across 528 plate appearances, he posted a .312/.353/.487 slash with 15 long balls and 16 steals.”

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    • rockymountainhigh

      November 8, 2017

      Votto and Goldy both played in extremely hitter friendly parks, no??? Yet they are not penalized. Ggrrrrrrrr.

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      • sdcarp

        November 8, 2017

        RMH….there has always been the old meme “you have to be on a winning team.” Votto didn’t meet that either, did he? I agree, this one smells fishy.

        I think Blackmon and Arenado probably split votes, which contributed to this a little bit. But that’s not an excuse for all of it.

        FWIW….if I had a vote, I’d go Goldschmidt #1, Arenado #2, Blackmon #3. I go Arenado over Blackmon because NoDo plays a premium position defensively better than anyone since Brooks Robinson while putting up ridiculous offensive numbers. I go Goldschmidt over Arenado by a whisker because of the speed he brings to the basepaths while still posting huge power numbers.

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      • Bob K.

        November 9, 2017

        Arenado, Blackmon and Stanton were the final 3 for NL Best player which went to Stanton. Altuve, Arenado and Stanton were the final 3 for Best MLB player which went to Altuve who also won the Best AL player award.

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    • Bob K.

      November 9, 2017

      If the Rockies were to sign a free agent that had turned down a QO, they would lose their fourth highest draft pick. The teams that can most afford to sign free agents (Competitive Balance Tax Payors: Tigers, Dodgers, Yankees, Giants, Nationals) really do get penalized much worse since they lose their second and fifth highest draft picks and also have their International Signing Bonus Pool reduced by $1MM. The non revenue sharing teams (Red Sox, Cubs, White Sox, Angels, Mets, Phillies, Cardinals, Rangers, Blue Jays) would lose their second highest pick and have their International Signing Bonus Pool reduced by $500K.

      These restrictions may have an effect on how big of contracts this years QO free agents are able to get.

      https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/11/which-draft-picks-each-team-would-lose-by-signing-a-qualified-free-agent.html

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    • roxnsox

      November 9, 2017

      Too many awards. Always Game Award – huh? Best Player? MVP? Silver Slugger? Gold Glove? No doubt there are more. (Doritos Chevrolet Wells Fargo Best OBP by a Guy Over 35 Award?) They have been sprouting up like weeds as far as I can see. I do value the “voted by players” ones more highly. And I do really like the Gold Glove, and the fact that DJ won another!

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      • roxnsox

        November 9, 2017

        And Nolan, of course! (That’s so close a lock, it barely deserves mention:)

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        • Bob K.

          November 9, 2017

          Not a problem since both DJ and Nolan won both.

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    • Bob K.

      November 9, 2017

      Blackmon gets Silver Slugger and Nolan becomes the second 3rd baseman (Mike Schmidt is the other) to get at least 3 consecutive Silver Sluggers.

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    • sdcarp

      November 10, 2017

      Shohei Otani to be posted. From RotoWorld:

      No surprise here, but this makes it official. Because baseball has agreed in principle to grandfather the previous posting system, the maximum a team can spend for the right to negotiate with Otani is $20 million. Being one of the best talents to come from the country — and in some scouts mind, any country — he will easily get that from any team that’s interested. After that the 23-year-old pitcher/hitter will be limited in his first couple of years in what he can earn salary wise, although it wouldn’t be a huge surprise if some sort of exception was made here as well. Either way, it’s looking more and more likely that we’ll see Otani in an MLB uniform next season.

      Otani could be plugged into the Rox RF slot AND (I’m being serious) pitch a relief inning here and there in a mop-up type role.

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      • Bob K.

        November 10, 2017

        I expect Otani to sign with an AL team so he can continue being a DH like he has been in Japan.

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      • sdcarp

        November 10, 2017

        I normally don’t recommend reading the comment sections after these articles – but this is an exception. So very intelligent questions and responses (and “no,” I haven’t participated, so I’m not plugging myself). Nice article also.

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    • Bob in WV

      November 10, 2017

      While the media has repeatedly pointed out that Arenado has three straight 130+ RBI seasons, they really don’t express the enormity of that. How many of you are aware that during that time he has 48 more RBI’s than any other player, and only six players are within 100 RBi’s? I don’t have a database to look this up so I compiled numbers from the leaders each of these years…correct me if I’m wrong. My totals show: Nolan (393 RBI’s), Encarnacion (345, -48), Goldschmidt (325, -68), Rizzo (319, -74), Cruz (317, -76), Pujols (315, -78), and Donaldson (300, -93). Betts at 292 and everyone else is over 100 back.

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    • Bob in WV

      November 10, 2017

      Long gone are the days of a Hank Aaron, Mike Schmidt, or Johnny Bench trotting unemotionally around the bases after a home run, even significant ones. You just weren’t supposed to show up the pitcher and the other team. Now, especially this season, there is an outpouring of excitement by players when they connect. Even Charlie Culberson ran around the bases with his wings extended on a home run that only got the Dodgers within a run in the 11th inning of WS Game 2. It’s my take on this that the players “learned” this from foreign players at the WBC where there was a ton of excitement shown throughout the tournament and brought it back to MLB. I don’t have a problem with it, what do you guys and gals think?

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      • roxnsox

        November 11, 2017

        I like it, Bob. Show some emotion! It’s a game! It’s fun! (I hate that stupid saying “Act like you’ve been here before.” First of all, what the heck does that mean? Second, it SEEMS to mean “don’t even smile.”)

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    • Bob K.

      November 10, 2017

      Wilson Defensive Player of the year awards. DJ wins at 2nd base. Tyler Chatwood wins at pitcher and Arenado wins his 3rd consecutive award at 3rd base. Since 2013 Arenado has 104 DRS (defensive runs saved). The next closest 3rd baseman is Machado with 74 DRS followed by Donaldson with 48 DRS and Beltre with 43 DRS. The only player with more DRS than Arenado since 2013 is Andrelton Simmons at SS with 144 DRS.

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    • sdcarp

      November 15, 2017

      In the “not surprising” department – Jerry DiPoto and the Mariners pulloff the first Hot Stove trade of note with the A’s. Mariners get Ryon Healy, A’s get a BP arm and a solid SS Prospect. On the surface, a logical trade for both teams.

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    • Bob K.

      November 16, 2017

      Nov. 20 is the deadline to add players to the 40 man roster to protect them from the upcoming Rule 5 Draft. The Rockies currently have 33 on the 40 man roster leaving a maximum of 7 players they can protect. I don’t expect them to add 7 players since they obviously will need spaces for Free Agent signings. These are the minor league players that are currently eligible for the Rule 5 Draft.

      AAA
      Shane Broyles – RHP
      James Farris – RHP
      Matt Flemer – RHP
      Nelson Gonzalea – RHP
      Austin House – RHP
      Sam Howard – LHP
      Harrison Musgrave – LHP
      Jerry Vasto – LHP
      Anthony Bemboom – C
      Derrik Gibson – IF

      AA
      David Holman – RHP
      DJ Johnson – RHP
      Troy Neiman – RHP
      Matt Pierpont – RHP
      Craig Schlitter – RHP
      Konner Wade – RHP
      Dom Nunez – C, IF
      Jan Vazquez – C
      Josh Fuentes – 3B
      Ashley Graeter – IF, C
      Luis Jean – SS, IF
      Ryan Metzler – 2B
      Anthony Phillips – IF, Utility
      Correlle Prime – 1B
      Omar Carrizales – CF, LF
      Drew Weeks – OF
      Max White – CF, OF

      A+
      Scott Griggs – RHP
      Alexander Guillen – RHP
      Marc Magliaro – RHP
      Carlos Polanco – RHP
      Brad Schreiber – RHP
      Max Schuh – LHP
      Jesus Tinoco – RHP
      Chris Rabago – C, SS
      Roberto Ramos – 1B. DH
      Avery Romero – 3B
      Yonathan Daza – LF, OF
      Wes Rogers – CF

      A
      Julian Fernandez – RHP
      Erick Julio – RHP
      Salvador Justo – RHP
      Jon Keller – RHP
      Juan Pena – RHP
      Joel Diaz – C, 1B
      Carlos Herrera – SS
      Wesley Jones – IF

      A-
      Luis Guzman – LHP
      Hidekel Gonzalez – C, 1B
      Luis Castro – 3B, 1B
      Jose G Rodriguez – 2B

      RK
      Devin Burke – RHP
      Jorge Oviedo – LHP
      Ramon Marcelino – OF

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      • sdcarp

        November 16, 2017

        Great info Bob K – thanks.

        Based on recent Rule 5 drafts, seems as though Farris and House should be protected (because relievers are popular picks and sometimes stick). Also seems like Dom Nunez should be protected (given the general shortage of productive Catchers).

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    • Bob K.

      November 16, 2017

      All 9 players receiving QOs rejected the offers. Greg Holland is now officially a free agent and can negotiate with any team. Hopefully some team (not the Rockies) will make him an offer that he can’t refuse.

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      • sdcarp

        November 16, 2017

        Agree….an offer over 50 million.

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    • Bob K.

      November 16, 2017

      Giancarlo Stanton wins NL MVP. I guess the BBWA members are fixated on home runs. Arenado finished 4th and Blackmon finished 5th.

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    • sdcarp

      November 17, 2017

      We’re just barely getting into the Hot Stove Rumor/Trade/FA season and I’m already encouraged about rumors associated with the Giants. I’ve heard/read Lorenzo Cain and JD Martinez linked to SF via FAgency, and Giancarlo Stanton via trade. That’s what we want gang….the Giants committed to more big contracts to aging players.

      One of the better rumors I’ve read is linked to the Yankees. They still have Jacoby Ellsbury’s boat anchor contract (the classic sunk cost) coupled with Clint Frazier needing a place to play (the classic opportunity cost). The rumor is swapping Ellsbury’s bad contract and a Prospect to the Royals for Ian Kennedy’s (less) bad contract. Let’s see if Cashman can pull that off.

      Players that I’m intrigued by:

      Mike Minor (as a RP)
      Juan Nicasio (yes, “that” Juan Nicasio)
      Eric Hosmer (remember, I’m frivolous with the Monfort’s money – Hosmer is only 28)
      Resigning LuCroy
      And in my never ending quest to have speed at the top of the order to manufacture runs….Dee Gordon (his contract isn’t awful) (I expect maximum pushback on this one!)

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      • sdcarp

        November 19, 2017

        Just a quick follow-up to my last (crazy) point here regarding Dee Gordon – or more specifically – speed to manufacture runs. I’ve read speculation from numerous sources that the rebuilding Reds might be willing to deal Billy Hamilton. By now – we know who Billy Hamilton is – and more importantly, who he isn’t. He’s a superb defensive outfielder and elite base stealer. Otherwise, he’s an awful offensive player. On a playoff caliber team, he’s a 4th OFer. A guy that comes in late as a pinch runner and defensive substitute. He can be supremely valuable in that role. But as an everyday player, his BA/OBP are a real drain on a team. I’d love to see the guy in the Rox uniform in a super-sub, 4th OFer role……but it’s a pipe dream. I’m sure the price would be too high.

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        • Bob K.

          November 19, 2017

          All Billy Hamilton needs to become a super player and greatly raise his BA and OBP is to learn how to bunt.

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          • sdcarp

            November 19, 2017

            It’s stunning to me Hamilton doesn’t bunt more (and better). With his speed, if he bunted all 4 ABs, every game, it seems like he could push a 300 BA (substantially better than he has performed to date).

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    • sdcarp

      November 19, 2017

      Rox and Brandon Kintzler mentioned in same (rumor) sentence. We could do worse, but I prefer Mike Minor among the realistic FA targets.

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    • sdcarp

      November 19, 2017

      Giancarlo Stanton pursuit is getting hot. From Jon Morosi regarding Stanton and Cardinals:

      “The two sides have been involved in discussions for weeks now, and with an actual offer on the table it appears as though their discussions could be gaining traction. The Giants have been tabbed as the “most aggressive team” in trade talks for Stanton, so it’ll be interesting to see if they come in behind and up the ante upon hearing of this. With each day, it looks increasingly likely that Stanton has played his last game in a Marlins’ uniform.”

      Stanton to the Cardinals concerns me more than Stanton to the Giants. The Cards have already added Mike Maddux as pitching coach. If they get a big bat or two, the wildcard races gets crowded.

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    • sdcarp

      November 19, 2017

      Extremely intriguing, good, somewhat cost controlled Closer Alex Colome (Rays) likely to be dealt. From Tampa Bay Times:

      Colome is entering his first of three arbitration years this winter, so it makes sense that the cost-conscious Rays would be looking to trade him while his value is high. Slated to turn 29 next month, Colome boasts a 2.63 ERA and 129/38 K/BB ratio across 123 1/3 frames over the last two seasons as the Rays’ closer. He led all of baseball with 47 saves in 2017. The Cardinals are one teams that’s already been connected to Colome

      Unlike my Billy Hamilton pipe dream, this is one that makes sense for the Rox to get involved in, at least kick the tires.

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    • Bob K.

      November 20, 2017

      From MLBTradeRumors:

      “The Rockies announced the selection of the contracts of four players: outfielder Yonathan Daza, lefty Sam Howard, backstop Chris Rabago, and righty Jesus Tinoco.”

      I thought that Tinoco might be a possibility since he is only 22.

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      • Bob K.

        November 20, 2017

        This leaves 3 open spots on the 40 man roster.

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      • sdcarp

        November 20, 2017

        I’m really surprised James Farris wasn’t protected. I see him being selected.

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    • Agbayani

      November 20, 2017

      Carp, I thought I was the guy with the Billy Hamilton fixation. I still think the best thing for a Coors Field team is a fantastic defensive centerfielder. Willy Taveras was that guy in the World Series year. Outfield defense bothered me last year. The metrics weren’t awful, but the bigger/more filled out Blackmon is due to be moved to RF. Dahl was going to be my CF of the future, but he’s a huge question mark now. And I never much liked Desmond anywhere other than SS or maybe 2B. I do think Hamilton could be traded and that the price wouldn’t be that great. Plus a pure basestealer adds another dimension. It’s the kind of move that would show a little outside the box thinking.

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      • sdcarp

        November 21, 2017

        The way I see the current situation is that Ryan McMahon can really help the Rox in 2018 (and beyond) via one of two ways. We can either play and make a significant contribution, or he can be used as the primary trade chip in something like a Billy Hamilton or Alex Colome trade (thereby directly addressing an area of need). Both Colome and Hamilton are in their arbitration years, so they’re not cheap, but they also won’t be expensive by baseball standards. In both cases, it might take more than McMahon…..but maybe not much more.

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    • sdcarp

      November 21, 2017

      Hmmmmm………the Rox leave three empty spots on the 40 man, then trade a journeyman AA RPer to the Orioles for an undisclosed amount of International Slot money on the day the Braves are set to lose 12 International signings as part of the penalty given to them by MLB.

      Nice…………….very nice.

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      • Bob K.

        November 21, 2017

        The trade nearly took place yesterday and did get finalized today. And Pete Rose is no longer the only person with a lifetime ban from baseball. John Coppolella has also received a lifetime ban.

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          • sdcarp

            November 24, 2017

            Bob K – check my memory:

            It seems as though I recall that the Rox used virtually all their “base” International money in 2017. Maybe they had 10K remaining? Then they get 500K for Wade. Another 200K from the special alotment for the Braves players. Also….was there some International money in the Miguel Castro trade?

            Regardless, it seems as though there’s enough money to poach one or two of these ex-Braves Prospects.

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            • Bob K.

              November 24, 2017

              The Rockies had about $10K remaining before the recent changes. This was pointed out due to the fact that is all they had available to make a pitch for Ohtani.

              They got RHP Jon Keller for Miguel Castro and no Pool money.

              All teams are allowed the $200K for use in signing the lost Braves prospects so that coupled with newly acquired $500K leaves them with about $710K for use in signing those particular prospects. The Braves prospects got to keep their original signing bonuses so the highest offers might not necessarily convince them to sign if they prefer going to a different team.

        • Chip

          November 28, 2017

          What about the lifetime ban for Shoeless Joe Jackson. Shouldn’t that have be lifted when he died in 1951?

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    • Bob K.

      November 23, 2017

      From MLBTradeRumors:

      “The Rockies signed righty Scott McGough to a minors contract, Baseball America’s Matt Eddy reports. McGough was a fifth-round pick for the Dodgers in the 2011 draft and was sent to the Marlins as part of the Hanley Ramirez trade in July 2012. The 28-year-old has a 3.48 ERA, 8.0 K/9 and 2.43 K/BB rate over 325 2/3 minor league innings (almost entirely as a reliever) with the Dodgers, Marlins and Orioles. McGough’s only MLB experience is a six-game stint with the Marlins in 2015.”

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    • Bob K.

      December 2, 2017

      From MLBTradeRumors:

      “Rockies have signed right-hander Chris Jensen to a minor-league pact (Twitter link). Jensen, 27, was originally Colorado’s sixth-round pick in the 2011 draft. He spent three seasons in the lower minors with the Rockies before being shipped to the A’s along with Drew Pomeranz in exchange for Brett Anderson. Jensen made seven starts and 23 relief appearances for the A’s Triple-A affiliate in 2017, and accrued an equal number of strikeouts and earned runs (56) across 84 2/3 innings pitched.”

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    • sdcarp

      December 4, 2017

      My #1 “realistic” RP FA target, Mike Minor signs with the Rangers. They may return him to his SP role, a mistake in my opinion.

      I’ve previously noted Giancarlo Stanton to the Giants doesn’t bother me long term, perhaps even short term, because of the boat anchor contract. BUT, I don’t want to see them get Ohtani also. That would change the equation. My pick remains….Ohtani to the Mariners.

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    • rockymountainhigh

      December 5, 2017

      I haven’t written a comment in a while because I’m waiting to see the Rockies’ real moves. #1 on my list is extending Nado.

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      • sdcarp

        December 6, 2017

        You better get ready to ramp up your participation Brotha…..because I think the Rox are going to be relatively active beginning with this weekend’s Winter Meetings.

        Here’s my wild ass, out of left field prediction for the Rox:

        Bridich pulls off a big trade with the Rays to obtain young(ish), somewhat cost controlled Closer Alex Colome. As part of the deal (to lessen the cost in Prospects), the Rox also take Evan Longoria and his contract, and move him to 1B.

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      • sdcarp

        December 8, 2017

        Nice deal for the Mariners all-the-way around assuming Dee Gordon can play CF. IMO, they already had the best shot at Ohtani, now they can offer the most $$$$. It also allows them to move very promising OFer Mitch Haniger to a corner OF spot. He was out of position in CF. I’m putting the Mariners on my “must see” list for Spring Training, 2018.

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    • rockymountainhigh

      December 8, 2017

      Oh man, Mike Trout is going to have a year for the ages now that Ohtani joined the Angels. Whoo hoo, I’m going to Rockies Angels game first week of spring training.

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      • sdcarp

        December 8, 2017

        The Angels have made two big un-Angel like moves…..signing Ohtani and also the #1 ranked kid in the Braves penalty saga – Maitan.

        I obviously predicted the Mariners…but in general I’m happy Ohtani isn’t in the NL West. Note NL West vs. AL West for 2018 Interleague.

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    • sdcarp

      December 8, 2017

      Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Chris Iannetta back to Rox. This tells me one of Wolters/Murphy will be Iannetta’s platoon mate, and LuCroy is moving on to greener pastures.

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      • sdcarp

        December 8, 2017

        BTW….I don’t hate this move “if” this is foreshadowing a bigger move for a prime offensive player.

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    • Agbayani

      December 8, 2017

      I don’t mind bringing Iannetta back at all, for what is (by 2018 standards) a very reasonable contract. I also like it because there’s no way Iannetta will play more than half time, so to me it signals that Tom Murphy is still very much in their plans. (Wolters: why not as a super utility guy? He brings more to the mix than, say, an Amarista type).
      Ohtani: now that should be fun to watch. Please, please, Angels, let him pitch and hit. All my baseball obsessed life I’ve been wondering why no player has seemed able to do this, even in the age of the DH. I haven’t seen exactly how the Angels plan to use him – there was speculation that some teams were looking at him as a reliever, at least in his first year. But whatever it is, let’s see if he can pull off the 2-way thing.

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      • sdcarp

        December 12, 2017

        Hmmmm….someone earlier in this thread predicted a Colome/Longoria trade. There’s some general consensus from the baseball pundits that the Rays will be looking for 1B/OF help in their upcoming trades. Keep in mind Chris Archer is likely also available, and is the big Rays prize.

        I doubt McMahon/Tapia is enough to pry loose both Colome/Longoria….even with their respective salaries attached. I would do that deal in a heartbeat BTW.

        IMO, the Rays will do Colome for McMahon straight up. I would do this deal “if” the Rox have a solid contingency plan at 1B.

        For the record, Mark Reynolds and Ian Desmond splitting time at 1st doesn’t qualify as a solid contingency plan.

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        • Bob K.

          December 12, 2017

          Yes you did and Longoria said that the Rays have not discussed their off season plans with him.

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    • roxnsox

      December 11, 2017

      I always liked Iannetta. I remember the total oooh-aaah when he blasted one (“when he hits it, it stays hit”)…hope he still brings that. I agree with Carp that splitting time with one of the other guys could work well. I don’t remember how he is as a defensive catcher, but he must have learned in the last few years and at least be serviceable. (One of those words that could mean Yes, good or No, not good enough.)

      Stanton to the Yankees? Ugh. For more reasons than just that I’m a Red Sox fan. Not conceding the AL yet, but yikes…

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      • sdcarp

        December 12, 2017

        According to pitch framing metrics (which in my opinion are dubious), Ianetta has improved quite a bit late in his career. Early in his career, he was generally considered a below average “defensive” catcher.

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      • sdcarp

        December 12, 2017

        The twittisphere is saying 3 years, 9M AAV (27Mish total). Great representation of the increasing importance (and hence cost) of the Relief Pitcher. Shaw is solid, not great. Has pitched in big, big games in the last few years. Maybe Senzatela will see this and say “make me Closer, make me Closer.”

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    • Bob K.

      December 12, 2017

      From MLBTradeRumors

      “Rockies GM Jeff Bridich poured cold water on some speculation surrounding his team, telling Patrick Saunders of the Denver Post (all Twitter links) and other reporters that the Rox aren’t involved in trade talks for Marlins outfielder Marcell Ozuna. Bridich also said that the club doesn’t have the payroll capability to shop at the very top of the free agent market for players like J.D. Martinez or Eric Hosmer. One player Colorado is involved with is Wade Davis, as Bridich confirmed that the team is still talking to the free agent closer.”

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    • sdcarp

      December 13, 2017

      Quick side note – Tommy Hunter to Phillies, 2 years, 18M. 9M AAV – same AAV as Shaw. I rate these two guys in the same “tier” of RPers.

      I don’t think the Rox over paid for Shaw…….it’s the market.

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    • sdcarp

      December 13, 2017

      Jake McGee back on a 3-year dealio. I don’t hate it.

      I’m of the opinion Scott Oberg (or Gophberg as RMH likes to call him) is on the verge of being good. If I’m correct, that now gives us a really nice group of Rusin, Shaw, Oberg, McGee, Dunn for the 7th and 8th innings. If Ottovino rebounds, that’s a nice bonus. Perhaps one of Diaz/Estevez takes a step forward. Rosscup = LOOGY. Let’s get a Closer……and don’t forget that I boldly maintain Senzatela could possibly be the answer at Closer. With a little luck and good management, this group has potential.

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    • rockymountainhigh

      December 13, 2017

      Now let’s get Santana at 1B. What I like best about him is low swings at pitches out of zone great BB/9 ratio.

      Would u guys give up chips to get Billy Hamilton to roam CF? Or go with Tapia/Dahl/Desmond?

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      • roxnsox

        December 14, 2017

        No! I think we’ve got enough speed (not Billy Hamilton speed) and better bats in our own guys.

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    • rockymountainhigh

      December 13, 2017

      Strong offer on table for Holland and they are still talking. That will be quite a bullpen haul from the winter meetings if he joins Shaw and McGee.

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    • Agbayani

      December 13, 2017

      Shaw is a perfectly fine signing. Looks like the market rate, and he’s about as reliably solid as they come. McGee on the other hand … ugh. I hate this. He’s been in a kind of classic decline since his last year in Tampa. Sure, he’ll have his rebound months – last year, he was good for half the season. But the bad streaks will continue to outweigh the good ones. Another signing today, and a guy I was hoping Bridich would chase: Juan Nicasio, 2 years, $17 million. He’s looked like closer material to me for a few years now. Less durable (so far) than Shaw, but I like his stuff better. Wade Davis? If you’ve got the money, I’d be fine with taking a shot at him. Greg Holland? No thanks. Another guy who, in retrospect, kind of got by with smoke and mirrors and a new league last year …

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      • roxnsox

        December 14, 2017

        Agreed, it’s a head-scratcher on McGee and Holland. Wonder what the Rockies were/are thinking when the things you state are plain as day. The talking heads on TV yesterday loved it, though. They were practically raving about how good the Rockies’ bullpen is, now!

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        • sdcarp

          December 14, 2017

          You make an interesting point regarding the TV Talking Heads. I saw the same thing(s) you did. “The Rox have built a great bullpen.” I have to laugh about that a little bit.

          What Bridich is on the verge of doing is simply preserving the 2017 better than average bullpen. Not a bad thing mind you. Shaw essentially replaces Neshek. McGee replaces……McGee. It sounds as though Holland might replace……Holland. Rusin is still the unsung hero. Rosscup is a good LOOGY in the making. Dunn will be Dunn. I maintain one of Oberg/Estevez/Diaz will breakthrough and be legitimately good. Ottovino……who knows. Senzatela is a Closer waiting to happen.

          I will say this….if Holland does indeed return (and McGee already has), this will be a real testament to their trust in Black/Foster/Holmes…..and that’s a very good thing.

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      • Bob K.

        December 14, 2017

        Rockies do make a selection in the AAA part of the Rule 5 Draft.

        “In the Triple-A phase of the Rule 5 draft, the Rockies took left-hander Mitch Horachek with the 19th pick in the phase. Playing for Class A Frederick (Md.) last season, the 26-year-old native of Littleton, Colo., went 5-3 with a 3.88 ERA. He struck out 68 but gave up 58 hits in 53.1 innings on his way to a 1.54 WHIP. Opponents hit .270 against him last season and he has a lifetime batting average against average of .272.”

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    • Bob K.

      December 14, 2017

      Adames signs minor league deal with Marlins.

      “The Marlins signed infielder Cristhian Adames to a minor league contract, Antonio Puesan of Magnus Media reports (Twitter link). The deal contains an invitation to Miami’s Spring Training camp. All ten of Adames’ pro seasons have come in the Rockies organization, including 166 games at the Major League level over the last four seasons. Adames actually appeared in 121 games for Colorado in 2016, though largely in a backup infield role. Still just 26, Adames has a .279/.344/.384 slash line over 3314 career minor league plate appearances and a .561 OPS over his 343 PA in the bigs.”

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      • sdcarp

        December 15, 2017

        I can’t think of a better team (Miami) for a young player trying to break into the Majors to be associated with at the moment. Plenty of opportunity there.

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    • sdcarp

      December 15, 2017

      A radical trade idea…………..Jeff Hoffman to the Yankees for CFer Aaron Hicks.

      Here’s my logic……..Yanks need pitching. Yanks are also up against the luxury tax threshold, so they need cheap pitching. They also just added Stanton (duh) and can’t seem to unload Elsbury. Here’s why I like Hicks – he was an extremely highly regarded Prospect (great pedigree) who struggle mightily when he hit the Majors with the Twins….to the point he was traded to the Yanks. He’s a great pure athlete. Exceptional defensive player. Last season, his bat quietly began to take off. But he suffered an injury about 2/3rds of the way through the season and didn’t figure in the Yanks playoff rush. He’s arbitration eligible this year – a FA in 2020. I believe he’s the classic “post-hype” star in the making. Let him play CF and move Charlie to a corner position. Move Parra in a salary dump deal for a minor leaguer. Use Desmond and Dahl as 3rd and 4th OFers.

      This move saves money, locks in a solid player for 18 and 19, and allows the pursuit of an impact 1B and/or Closer.

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      • sdcarp

        December 16, 2017

        We could take this radical idea and square it……pick up Hicks and Dellin Betances????

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    • Doc

      December 16, 2017

      Do any of you have an answer to this exchange with Patrick Saunders of the DP?

      On MLB Network Radio this morning, Stan Kasten (part-owner and president of the Dodgers) described LA’s analytics department as “25-30 people, and I really have no idea what they do, but I know it’s really important.” How does this compare to the Rockies’ department in terms of both size and top-level involvement and understanding?

      Patrick: To be honest, I don’t know how many analytics guys and gals the Rockies employ. I suppose I could find out. I do know that they have beefed up that department substantially over the last five years.

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      • sdcarp

        December 16, 2017

        Doc – I recall on at least one occasion, and I believe twice, seeing ads on FanGraphs for position(s) in the Rockies analytic department. So, I know it exists. I’m sure it’s a (small) fraction of what the Dodgers have though.

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      • sdcarp

        December 16, 2017

        The Braves have made several of these type trades over the last few years. I applaud their creativity, either as the originator or the participant. Kemp is obviously clubhouse toxic. Gonzalez’s back is probably shot.

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