Home Opener a Giant Disappointment

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It had all the makings of a slugfest.  In the one corner you had a pitcher that had been struggling with his command since the middle of last year, Chacin.  In the other corner you had a pitcher that has been struggling with  his command for a lot longer than that, Zito.  Both were rocked during spring training.  Add to it the venue, hitters friendly Coors, as well as the retooled line-up of the Rockies (featuring several “upgrades” with the lumber) and you would expect to walk away from this bloody with runs.

Reality is that the best player on the Giants team today was the Rockies.  With the poor hitting, terrible fielding and abysmal pitching it was simple for the Giants to walk away from this one, Zito carting the “Complete Game Shutout” hardware to the hotel, snickering at how easy the feat was.  In front of a sold out crowd of +50,000, the sign that everything was wrong came early and cringe-inducingly loud as the Panda pounded a 2 run home run on the first pitch he saw.

The game went downhill from there.  Behind a lot of walks, errors and poor hitting many fans were prompted to boo and leave early.  When was the last time fans saw errors from two best fielders, CarGo and Tulo, and that seemed to really put a dagger in a day that was meant to shine.

Now we will have to sit through Sports Center, local news and blogs around the country proclaiming that, “Zito is back” and “Rockies shut-out during home opener”.  This will be almost as painful as the 3+ hours endured watching the game itself.

 

 


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Opening Day Ceremony

Opening Day Ceremony

 

57 Comments

      • rockymountainhigh

        April 9, 2012

        You’re welcome; figured I had a great vantage point for the pregame ceremony pictures although it was just cell phone quality.

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        • jaredean

          April 10, 2012

          Hey, i was VERY interested to see how the crowd would “cheer” for Nicasio during the opening introductions but the speakers on my laptop are horrible and I couldn’t tell – did they give him the proper shouts that are befitting his amazing comeback?

          I know he will get big cheers when he starts next, but was hoping he would get a ton of cheers today. It didn’t last as long as I would have wanted (i was hoping they’d go on for a full minute :-))

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    • EZW

      April 9, 2012

      It was a fantastic day in LoDo: perfect weather; home Opener; fan excitment; pre-game pomp. Someone forgot to invite the Rockies players to the party.
      I get “it’s early.” But really shut out at home on Opening Day by Freaking Zito?! Inexcusable. And I am already tired of Tracy’s “explanations” of this nonsense. Losing 2 of 3 to AA Astros and then not showing up at home today… What The ….

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    • Rocky

      April 9, 2012

      I looked for the RWO group in Jackson’s today, didn’t find y’all. Still, a lovely day today. Forgive me, I’ve been drinking.

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    • Ike

      April 9, 2012

      I’m not sure where to put this, so I’ll put it here.

      EdtheUmp and rockymountainhigh,

      It was great to meet you. Thank you Ed for your hospitality. I owe you one. Rocky, I’ve read your posts here and other places for years and have the utmost respect. Meeting you and Ed was a highlight of my day.

      Not enough can be said about how disappointing the effort was today; but I will offer that Roenike looked pretty darn good.

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      • Matt G

        April 9, 2012

        Unfortunately, my thoughts exactly. I didn’t get to watch the game today because I was workin, but I did listen to it on the radio (well, some of it).

        Going back to the Sunday loss at Houston (what? a Rockies Sunday loss?) what epitomized the “different but the same” outlook for me was AB by Rosario in the 9th after Cuddyer doubled to lead off. In that situation Rosario’s only job on this planet is moving Cuddyer to 3rd, where he is a sac fly or weak grounder away from tieing the game. What happens instead? He K’s looking. HE K’S LOOKING!!! I know baseball isn’t easy – I am still trying to figure it out. But you HAVE to do better than that. This is obviously an isolated example, but I think it exemplifies who the Rockies (sadly) have become.

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        • Cisco Kid

          April 9, 2012

          Matt, the bottom line is Rosario should have been bunting Cuddyer over. I put that squarely on JT.

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        • Matt G

          April 9, 2012

          Hey, fair enough. I don’t care who wants to take up and take responsibility so long as the f**kin runner gets to 3rd! Haha

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    • Cisco Kid

      April 9, 2012

      Got back from the game a bit ago, and just wanted to go to my favorite site and vent a bit. For the first time in 20 years of Rockies baseball I left a game early, before the final out. I won’t comment about the play on the field because enough people have said enough already. My problem was with the whole “Coors Field experience”. Can the between innings “entertainment” get any more lame? It was bad and getting worse in previous years, but today just hit a new low.

      What the hell was that on-field race we were subjected to? Was that some weak imitation of the sausage race? A tooth, a toothbrush, and a tube of toothpaste? You’ve got to be kidding me!! What marketing genius came up with that? I know some HS freshmen FBLA club members that can come up with a better marketing theme than that. The person responsible should be fired before the next game.

      And who’s the new ‘talent’ that does the in-between-innings moderation of these lame skits? Come on Rockies, is this the best you can do? So many hot-looking babes walking around LoDo and you offer us this Morticia-looking imitation with bad dental implants? At the very least please prepare her to correctly pronounce your players’ names. You only had a few months to inform your employees that the name is pronounce Cu-die-er not Cud-eer.

      I recall during the early years of Coors Field we were actually given some quality between innings entertainment. Whatever happened to the previous day’s results of all the minor league games? Who do the Rockies think their clientele is? Some ADD kindergartners that have to constantly be stimulated? Please give us some quality!!

      Memo to the Rockies management:
      If you are indeed the class organization you tell us you are, please quit with these classless skits. Thank you

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      • Swede

        April 10, 2012

        First tIme I’ve ever left early as well. Left top of the 9th. Everyone else around us had departed over the proceeding three innings in section 129! So sad.

        My wife and I were both shaking our heads at the dental race gig. You see things like that in AA ball games. ‘The Year of the Fan’ theme is also terrible. Fan pictures of people I don’t know on each season ticket? Now there’s a real collectors item! The marketing dude needs to find a new job.

        I love the Rockies. I want to see quality baseball. You can’t win them all but you should be putting your best foot forward. Please. Please. Please.

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    • Agbayani

      April 9, 2012

      Cisco, that’s a LOL observation. I saw that tooth race thing or whatever it was. My kid was just as mystified as me. I said I thought the little one was a molar and the big one was an incisor. I guess I didn’t get it. And the roving interview girls were pretty lame. I also didn’t see a whole lot of give-aways on to fans wearing purple on Purple Monday.

      Here’s a bit of constructive criticism: instead of God Bless America, I’d love to hear America the Beautiful, inspired by our purple mountain majesty …

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      • GARY

        April 10, 2012

        Or at least mix it up,or alternate.You know like we do at third base!Maybe some rousing instrumentals-like “Stars and Stripes Forever”et.al.I’m serious.

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    • Agbayani

      April 9, 2012

      Curious thing in the Sky Sox game tonite: DJ LeMahieu playing 3B, Brandon Wood playing 2B. LeMahieu also leading off. I think the Nelson/Pacheco third base thing’s days are numbered.

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      • rockymountainhigh

        April 9, 2012

        Stop the experimenting; just call up Nolan Arenado arbitration timing issue or not.

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        • Agbayani

          April 9, 2012

          RMH, you may have a point. 2 more hits for Arenado tonite, now hitting .500/.565/.650. The Rockies do have a history of this with Tulo c. 2007, and if the club doesn’t catch fire soon I could see Arenado getting called up very soon.

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        • Bob K.

          April 10, 2012

          Its just me, but I don’t want to see Arenado called up while JT is the manager. I believe that JT would find a way to ruin him.

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    • GARY

      April 10, 2012

      It’s all my fault.After season opener I posted that it didn’t seem right to have a Rockies game and nothing to bitch about! Well,the last 3 games have certainly corrected that situation.Jaredean,your sunday line-up post was spot on,so don’t suddenly lose your writers edge to some rah-rah cheerleading guilt trip.This team has been terrible in the last 3 games and its a disservice to sugar coat it like the ROOT crew.It maybe that the purple koolaid of the winters hopefulness has suddenly been spiked with LSD,or maybe real games have actually added a painful clarity that’s washed away the purple haze.[the 60’s references kinda give away my age,don’t they.]

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    • GARY

      April 10, 2012

      Jaredean,after re-reading your post,I disagree about kicking “our”team while they are down.I doubt that any of the 13 or more millionaires on the roster are losing any sleep,or could care less what is posted here.Which after the 100 or so negative comments since 2 pm.is probably a good thing.

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    • ProgMatinee

      April 10, 2012

      Just want to add that 4 days in Jared, you are doing a great job with your post game write ups.

      I’m sad to say I don’t know how long I can post about this team. I’m not normally that pessimistic and jaded in the real world, so to have something as awful to write/talk about as this Rockies team might turn out to be is really bringing me down.

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    • jaredean

      April 10, 2012

      Gary, after finally getting some sleep after a week’s worth of 20ish hour days, I went back and re-read my “rah-rah”, as you put it, and I have to agree with you. Let me explain why I wrote it, and why I’ve removed it…

      For those that didn’t see what I wrote at the end of this post-game write-up, I ended by trying to “rally the troops” around the team. It was a, “this is just the beginning of the season…the guys are feeling horrible, i think and we need to get behind them, etc.”

      The reason I wrote it is because as I was listening to the game (delayed), and dealing with things here at work that weren’t going my way, I was getting more and more angry…i felt myself becoming extremely upset at everything around me and knew I had to go to bed or I’d lose it. It was massive sleep deprivation and I don’t know that I’ve ever felt it like I have this time around (I deprive myself of sleep way too much for work, family and the Rockies..just not enough hours in a day)…But I was seriously angry.

      So, I am ready to head to my room and get some rest, but I wanted to do a post-game write-up. One thing I wanted to do with this site was to get into writing again. My whole life, all the way through College, I’ve been a constant reader and I’ve always loved to write…i still read a ton (2-3 books a month), but I haven’t written as much in a long while. I knew that this site would help me work on my writing skills and the pre/post game would be the perfect place to do it. So I really want to make sure I take advantage as soon as possible after a game to do the post-game write-up. I should have waited until after I got some rest.

      As I sat down to write the post-game article I was just so very angry. Before typing anything up I went back and read through the comments on the pre-game posts, as well as some of the past comments I’d missed from the Sunday article. Almost all of them were filled with angry comments from the readers here who are justifiably upset with the beginning of the season so far, myself included. But, reading the comments just made me even more upset. So, I start writing about the game, and at a certain point I realize that the last thing I want this site that I love and have put so much time and effort into, that last thing i want is for it to turn into is a massive anger fest. That’s one thing I can’t stand when reading the bulk of the comments from the Denver Post site. I have no idea who comments on that site, but it seems to me that every time I read something (which is very rare anymore) almost every single comment is hate hate hate.

      So with those thoughts in mind I decided that I needed to try and “cheer myself up” through the post-game write-up. What you read was me talking to me. It was my weak effort to “rally myself” out of my anger and funk.

      Then I went to bed.

      I woke up a couple of hours later and didn’t check the site because I am very short on time here and have to focus. I just went to dinner and read through some of the comments here and then and went back and re-read what I wrote and realized that the last paragraph of “rah-rah” has no place in a game recap. That is editorializing beyond what should be in my write-ups. If I have something to say like that, then it should be in the comments below as “me”, as opposed to reporting what happened on the field.

      So, there you have my VERY long winded reason why I wrote it and eventually changed it…

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      • Cesar Carvajal

        April 10, 2012

        Hey, as Prog said, I think you’re doing a good job with this site.

        And one of the things I love about it, I think all of you have metioned it before, is that you don’t find all those haters comments that you find in a “popular” site. I follow a variety of sports and teams, and it’s very hard to find some website where you can find people to chat in a reasonable debate of ideas about the team.

        The comments I read here are as good as the posts.

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        • TJinPhoenix

          April 10, 2012

          Cesar (and JD to a large extent). Cesar took the words right out of my mouth and just because my soapbox happens to be here, I’ll get on it…. The comments, camaraderie, and frankly the knowledge I get from visiting this site, living and dying with fellow Rockies fans (hopefully the Living will outweigh the Dying soon) is why I’ve been a fan of this site and ITR since they both started. I can’t say that strong enough and frankly, has made me even MORE of a Rockies fan over the last year (if that was possible).

          When I had the pleasure of meeting Ed the Ump in spring training, that’s a topic we talked about, how this group on this site is what makes it great and how we don’t attack each other, we respect each other, and we’re all here because we love the game and Rockies.

          Wow, not sure I have a point, other than what Ceser said-the comments are as good as the posts. Hopefully we can look back in a few weeks and say…my God, were we Bitter!!! (I’m a glass half-full kinda guy)

          Sun came up today (at least here) and there’s another game tomorrow….

          Go Rockies!

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      • GARY

        April 10, 2012

        This site should still be fun for you,so I hope things settle down when you get state side.Thanks for responding directly to my comments[also written somewhat in anger].I hope you realize,as Prog,me,and everyone else here have said,you have/are doing a great job.I think the site needs alittle positivity once in a while.I just didn’t want you to lose that edge that made that Sunday lineup post so spot on.To love baseball I think one has to still be a kid at heart.And kids often have have high,sometimes unrealistic expectations.Therefore,the great posters here have had a dose of adult reality and it sucks.I posted my comments almost 12 hours after the opener ended and I was still angry and disappointed,but mainly because the team seemed so flat and lackadaisical.The kid in me however says you are right in trying to stay positive and support “the guys” who one week ago we all thought/hoped were world beaters.So get home safe,get some rest,enjoy your family ,and keep your writers edge.I promise to cut the team some slack,no matter how briefly,and to continue to enjoy this site and all the posters.

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        • Jaredean

          April 10, 2012

          Thanks Gary, I appreciate your comments. I know that the site is loved by many, I don’t know that it’s loved by many more than myself. It isn’t a burden or anything I can’t handle. It gives me a way to express my absolute love of the Rockies, and baseball in general. I do promise you that I will continue to keep my “writers edge”, and am extremely proud of the Sunday article that I worked really hard to make sure that it said what I meant and meant what I said.

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    • Batgirl

      April 10, 2012

      Like everyone posting here, I’m trying to stay positive but it’s hard. I appreciate your analysis, Jared but I fear there really is something deeper going on. I’ll just call it The Management Curse. How else to explain catching sports center last night and seeing the following: Chris Iannetta with an RBI double, Seth Smith with an RBI single, Jason Hammel with a no hitter through the 8th in his first outing….you get my drift. We could argue back and forth about how justified it was to get rid of all those guys but it’s hard not to notice how some of our players seem to THRIVE when they leave us. What’s going on?? From O’Dowd on down, there is a Management Curse. Bad decisions on who to draft, who to keep, who to start (Nelson? EY2? Herrera? Are you kidding me?) who to trade….I just don’t have faith in management at all. And if I hear them emphasize clubhouse culture one more time, I’m going to scream. So these last 4 games bother me….a lot.

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      • GARY

        April 10, 2012

        Well said,and you really raise a point that has me wondering the same thing.

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    • Cesar Carvajal

      April 10, 2012

      The Rockies have only played four games, and the word “crisis” has crossed my mind after reading lots of reviews of the last three games.

      I don’t think the Rockies are in a crisis, but they’re in the track that leads to it. They need a spark, they need chemstry. Usually, the players are not responsable of that chemstry, but the manager does.

      A few days ago I had a conversation with a friend about managers in sports. My statement was that in most sports, the managers are responsable for the success of the team way more than the players, especially at a pro level. In baseball, there’s no difference, he is responsable for the tiny decisions that could change the whole game, and also the one that motivates the players, both individually and as a team.

      If a manager can’t do that, well, “Hasta la vista, baby”

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    • Deep Purple

      April 10, 2012

      I forced myself to go into this season with low expectations (I’m a natural optimist, so it wasn’t easy), but I have this sick feeling that this is what low expectations, deservedly low that is, looks like.
      Then again, we’re just four games into the season. I think Ramon Hernandez said this is no time to panic, and I think he’s right. Arenado will get here and so will others like Wheeler and probably a few more, but unless there’s an injury, not just yet. Look at the calendar. It’s April 10th folks.

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    • Pooter

      April 10, 2012

      Last season was so long and frustrating to be a fan of the Rockies that I think most of us are still holding on to 2011 venom that is added to our frustration in 2012. Yeah, its only been 4 games, but we have already seen how this story unfolds with these players and this management so it seems somewhat predictable.

      I live in EASTERN Nebraska so this site is where I like to discuss, and VENT about this Rockies team, because it’s pretty lonely out here when it comes to Rockies baseball. I will try to stay positive from now on and I will definately stop with the stupid comments that I made yesterday which had to be edited. I can’t even blame that on lack of sleep, I guess I am just not that smart, maybe that is why I’m an EYJ fan :).

      I still do think this is probably the best Rockies team in terms of depth and overall talent. Hopefully they can figure it out. Love the site jardean, you do a very good job.

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      • jaredean

        April 10, 2012

        “I can’t even blame that on lack of sleep, I guess I am just not that smart, maybe that is why I’m an EYJ fan.”

        Oh man, i wish i could give that 50 thumb-ups!

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    • Pooter

      April 10, 2012

      The Giants just got swept by a division foe and were embarassed. They showed up yesterday ready to make a statement and did! That’s what good teams with good leadership do. I know Wednesday’s game will be the 5th of the season but I think it will be very telling in if this current lineup and or managment is going to compete this season. I think they will come out Wednesday and make a statement like the Giants did yesterday, however, if they come out and everything is same ol, same ol, then I am going to feel doom and gloom creap into my thoughts regrading this 2012 Rockies team. Wednesday night is a big game and I feel will reveal the Rockies identity.

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    • OrangeRocks

      April 10, 2012

      Way off topic here, however I would like to comment that baseball is not being taught to professional baseball players in the same manner that it was 50 years ago. Now I admit that Cargo makes that one handed glove catch 999 out of 1,000 times, however it is the “1” time that you do not make it, that you are properly instructed to catch a baseball with the glove hand covered by the free hand.

      Same thing with players backing up throws to bases or home plate, or a pitcher not getting to first base in time to receive a throw, or Rosario failing to move a player over to third base. BASEBALL 101 stuff!

      You have no idea how upset I get at watching players with terrible fundamental skills being paid millions of dollars to play a kid’s game and also show the kids the “right” way to play. And no I am not picking on Cargo here, he is only today’s example as nearly all the players make that same fundamental mistake.

      Now I know that complaining about J Tracy is much like spitting into the wind, however the difference between the Diamondbacks and the Rockies is NOT talent, it is the simple difference between a manager that is really engaged (Kurt Gibson) in the game and one that spends the entire time trying to find some excuses for his or his players actions.

      BTW another manager in Baltimore has very little talent to work with, but has his players playing really well right now. Also how is that Pomeranz delayed start working out?

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    • OrangeRocks

      April 10, 2012

      Unable to watch the game yesterday, however I did track it on radio and gameday for a few innings. Two things were very obvious from the gameday pitch tracking.

      1. Chacin pitches were either way out of the zone or in the top third of the zone. Also his velocity was topping out at 91 mph. Especially at Coors Field, you better live in the “bottom third” with that 90ish stuff or you are gonna get hammered.

      2. Zito was able to get the Rockies to swing on many pitches that were right on the edge or just off the edge of the zone. I was immediately struck with the thought that this was Moyer (not Zito) pitching with just a tad bit better velocity.

      How long a leash does Chacin get, two or three more starts – and what efforts are going to be made to improve on the those starts?

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    • Julian

      April 10, 2012

      OrangeRockes, if we give Chacin only two or three more starts, then who comes in to take those starts after that until DLR comes back? We have a 49 year old starter whose fastball goes 80 because he’s the best option that we have at the moment. All the depth we thought we had in spring training (Moscoso, White, Chatwood) doesn’t look like real depth at this point. Hopefully by the end of the season one or more of these guys or someone else (Bettis or Cabrera) might be able to step up, but at this point it seems to me that we are stuck with the rotation that we have.

      It gets frustrating to see our players have issues, and then get traded for not much, and then see them perform well elsewhere (such as Morales). In part, I fault our coaches in not being able to get the most out of our players.

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      • jaredean

        April 10, 2012

        I’m not sure we gave a Moyer a start based on the fact that he was the best of the worst…he really did shine during Spring Training, especially his last start. We all were surprised and I honestly think that if he can pitch like he did (and we can field behind him and hit inbetween his innings) then he will work out great…remember, he had his perfect four innings against non othe than the Giants, who praised him for being crafty and unhittable. So I’m looking forward to Thursday for sure…except i’ll be on a plane! Which sucks…

        I don’t know who they will replace Chacin with, possibly Rogers? Speaking of, he was warming up at the end of the third, if i remember correclty, but didn’t come in…any ideas on that? I couldn’t hear the game very well, so i didn’t hear what they said (if anything) about him…

        You know, if you think about it we really do have 3 starters that are pretty dang solid – Nicasio was downright excellent in his first start, just didn’t have run supports. Guthrie was also excellent, the workhorse we signed up for. And we all know Pomeranz has potential to be our Ace by years end and showed his brilliance during Spring Training. So, 3 of 5 excellent pitchers is more than some teams…now if Chacin can capture the Chacin of old and Moyer can give us a few quality starts we might not be too bad off at the Pitching spot…

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      • OrangeRocks

        April 10, 2012

        Not saying he will, however if Chacin continues to struggle like Monday, then the Rockies will have no choice but to turn to other potential starters.

        Chatwood
        White
        Moscoso
        Cabrera
        Outman (hurt)
        Bettis (also hurt)

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    • TJinPhoenix

      April 10, 2012

      Ed, can you steer me to a “Sabr for Dummies” website (if there is such a thing)? I’d like to take a peek at it.

      Thanks!
      TJ

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    • OrangeRocks

      April 10, 2012

      It is not the results of Chacin’s start that really trouble me, it is the way those results were achieved. Wasn’t there at Coors Field in person but it seemed to be that he walked way too many and when he got hit the ball was hit very hard. Everything except the Panda homeer (low ball hitter) was way up in the zone.

      This all stems from fastball command as J Tracy tends to point out to the media, and in this case he is actually right. Someone above seemed to think that I am permanently giving up on Chacin – that’s not what I intended to say at all. However if he can not straighten things out within the next three starts or so, then it is time for some remedial pitching instruction in the minors.

      I am actually more excited from a baseball perspective to see Moyer’s next start than Chacin’s – the reason is that Moyer while he did miss with a few pitches, he did not miss by much. Chacin on the other hand missed with a lot of pitches and he often missed by a lot. In short I think if I was betting fan that I would put my money ON Moyer and AGAINST Chacin in their next outings.

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    • ProgMatinee

      April 10, 2012

      I remember most people defending Chacin when he came back against O’Dowd and defended his work ethic. Who was telling the truth or not is probably hard to tell, but it might also be beside the point depending on the direct Chacin goes. At this point I think there was more to O’Dowd’s point than Chacin would have wanted people to believe.

      That said, O’Dowd is the fool here. Not only is he stuck with YET ANOTHER player falling short of his potential, but now you publicly made him out to be lazy and unwilling to work at his trade. Good luck getting fair market value for that.

      Should have traded him in 2008 when he and Stewart or another prospect could have brought back a top flight pitching rental. 08 would have been entirely different. Ah well. I guess I’ll never let that go.

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    • Miketober

      April 10, 2012

      I try very had to stay positive, but I have a hard time being optimistic about a team whose management gave Jim Tracy tenure after two consecutive disappointing seasons and two September collapses. I know I’m scapegoating our perennial manager, but ITR (and now RWO) abounds with questionable managerial moves that cost the Rockies games. It’s a strange culture; scapegoat and get rid of the bad eggs in the clubhouse, bring in new eggs that perform just as poorly, treat the manager like king. Last fall we were treated with an abysmal “Fan Appreciation Week”. This year is the “Year of the Fan” which really makes me nervous what to expect.

      Baseball is a statistical game. Dex is sometimes going to strike out with 2 outs and RISP. Tulo will likewise pop out in the same situation. Chacin will occasionally give up the 2-R HR. Our 3B-man will occasionally make a bad throw and 1B a bad pick. I can live with that.

      What irritates me is when the team fails to learn from it’s mistakes. If I had offered to bet any of you $100 that Chacin would have a 4 walk inning yesterday, would any of you have taken the bet? How about Cargo waving at a pitch way out of the zone. How many times are we going to see the run-on-contact play or the failure to bunt or advance a runner in a close game or the Sunday line-up? The baseball-IQ of this team needs serious improvement. I’m not talking about individual isolated plays, I’m talking about the same dumb errors over and over again.

      Jaredean, we all love the site and the soundbox it represents. I think it’s okay to be a cheerleader and it’s okay to rant. When the Rox come back and take the next 2 from the Gnats you will hear a different tune here – we will all be talking WS.
      Sorry if this post was more a stream of consciousness than a coherent point, but I feel better now.

      GO ROCKIES!

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      • Trip

        April 10, 2012

        “What’s that? Ah — Playoffs? Don’t talk about — playoffs?! You kidding me?! Playoffs?! I just hope we can win a game! Another game!”

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    • GARY

      April 10, 2012

      There are some pulitzer prize winning posts here,especially after our fearless[exhausted]leader responded to my cheerleader criticism.If there are better sites than this they must be staffed by “professional”writers.Yes Agbayani,I believe the word community describes this site,and rightfully so!

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    • rockymountainhigh

      April 10, 2012

      That’s why I love this RWO site; in the bad times we can vent our frustrations out and yet we can step back and remind each other that we are here for each other and meditate yoga-style.

      Thank you all RWOers and especially Jared for this wonderful community. Like Jared, I do enjoy writing. I have two styles of writing: 1) writing as if it is an article with two sides to the story 2) venting which is reserved for comments section. I was the sports editor of the high school newspaper and I get to do write again to keep my journalism skills sharp.

      Unlike some of the RWOers, I do not have much time to delve into the sabermetrics. I just let other trusty RWOers present them to me or I can glean the data off Purple Row website.

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      • GARY

        April 10, 2012

        I think Agbayani has all of that knowledge that I can pretend to understand.As one of the senior citizen posters,I was taught this about our beloved game.Throw ball-see ball-hit ball-catch ball.Simple game!

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    • rockymountainhigh

      April 10, 2012

      Top notch article, Ag. You should submit this as a guest columnist to the Denver Post!

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    • IggyRox

      April 10, 2012

      First of all, thanks again to Jared for a top notch site. Also thanks to the many astute posters whose views are right on. I enjoy reading everything y’all have to say.

      We are 4 games into a season. I have to echo some of what Agbayanni said… just can’t say it so well. I also have to remind people that here in Denver Broncos country, 3 lousy games out of 4 is devastating for a football team. This is baseball. Tulo isn’t hitting. Cargo looks pathetic at the plate. Cuddy is the best hitter right now, but even he isn’t producing great numbers. Nobody is doing squat at this point. This too shall pass, friends. This team is better than exhibited in the last 3 games. Not saying there aren’t problems, but let’s not get carried away. Even if they go 1-9, there is still half of April to go, and a .500 record in the 2nd half of April brings them to roughly 8-15. Yeah, it sucks, but the Giants are 1-3 as well. This trend will not continue. They may end up with only 75 wins, but I think they are more likely to end up with 85… either way, its MLB in Denver at the best park I’ve ever seen. It’s baseball. That’s good enough for me, even if they lose 100. If they do, I’ll be in front of the line to toss bombs at them, but for now, I think I’ll be patient.

      I still support Tracy and DOD. Give them this season, then do what you have to do. I do agree with the comments about Kirk Gibson… he makes a difference. But so does Ozzie Guillen… should we check him out when he yaps/tweets his way out of Florida? Let’s let time tell the tale. Forget the past. We’re 4 games into 2012. Let’s see what happens.

      Re: Chacin… does he have any options left? Why not send him down for 3-4 starts and send a message, if nothing else. Who do you bring up? Moscoso. He is a proven effective pitcher over the short term, and I think would do just fine if he got a chance. Even if he has a lousy start… Lincecum sucked in his first start too.

      Re: Moyer… I might be the only guy in town who says this, but his start was not bad at all. It was a Moyer start, period. Unfortunately, the defense and the bullpen let him down… with a pitcher like Moyer, you need solid defense and production from the pen. I expect he’ll get a W within his next 2 starts. The Rox will be in every game he starts, with the exception of the 1 or 2 stinkers every starter delivers.

      Now, the Helton question. Always been a huge Todd fan, still am, but I agree with DMac on the Fan’s take on Todd, and the fact you need power and RBI from the corners. The Rox have little or no power from 3B, and so far, none at 1B. I think Todd should be in the role that Sweeney or VanderWal was a few years back. The Rox should consider dealing some prospects (yes, maybe a Wheeler and an arm or two.. or somebody other than Areando that we all have man crushes for) for Mark Trumbo. Trumbo will not do well with the Angels 3B experiment in the long run, and would be a perfect fit in Denver at 1B. He’d likely go .265/30/100 in Denver. Or better. I’d also be in favor of Parmalee from MN, but he’s off to as bad a start as Todd, so I don’t want to be any more of a target than I have to!

      When can Areando be brought up without messing up the arbitration/FA thing? When it’s the right time, bring him up. Sorry Chris Nelson/Jonny Herrera/EY. It’s the right thing to do (apologies to Wilfred Brimley!).

      Hey Dex… bleep, or get off the pot. Produce now or maybe be offered in the aforementioned proposed trade offer to the Angels for Trumbo! Iannetta seems to have learned to hit there, maybe it will work for Dex! lol

      Sorry about my long posts, but I was a journalism major… back in the days of the electrotype machine and paper boys on bicycles! lol Just passionate about my baseball, and I think I know the game well. Sometimes colored by my intense homer-ism, but…

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      • GARY

        April 10, 2012

        Did you mean Wilfred Brimley or Ed the Ump.In photos I can’t tell them apart.LOL.

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    • Agbayani

      April 10, 2012

      Thanks, guys, for reading and making some nice comments about my long post on this thread.

      A few more mundane thoughts:

      IggyRox, on Moyer: I have no problem with giving him a shot a being the 5th starter. Not only is he a nice story, he actually has a chance to be an acceptable performer in that role. I like him better in that role than his competition if that’s Moscoso and Outman. But he is a 5th starter at best, so I don’t like to see professional baseball men like Tracy and O’Dowd get carried away and start giving him discretionary starts.

      on Helton: Iggy, I completely agree. That’s why I don’t like carrying Giambi. I thought the best offseason move would’ve been to sign Cuddyer (I actually liked the cheaper version, Josh Willingham) and keeping Seth Smith. That would’ve allowed the club to ease Cuddyer into 1B and Helton into the Giambi role. Helton (a prideful man) would probably have a problem with taking on that role willingly, but let’s face facts: his back has given out on him in 3 of the last 4 seasons, and at age 38 we can’t expect it to last. You need a Plan B at first base; we don’t have one.

      on Arenado: I was skeptical in that I saw another kid dominating his league at a young age for that league — that describes a lot of guys, including Ian Stewart. But I’ve been convinced: even if he could benefit from some more minor league work, I am nearly certain that he would be our best player at 3B right now. And I think the Rox brass must agree. So it’s purely an arbitration clock issue now. I think clubs consider June 1 to be the “safe” call-up date. Call me a spendthrift with other people’s money, but I’ve got to say to the Monforts: let O’Dowd pull the trigger now. Don’t make us suffer through another couple months. I guess the good news is if they continue their poor start they’ll call up Arenado early to try to keep the fan base engaged. I want him up to try to be competitive.

      on Chacin: he does look very messed up out there. Almost Ubaldo Jr. like. I don’t know what’s going on here, but a loss in velocity (which is part of it, and — as the Cowboy explained last year — maybe a huge part of it as Chacin becomes afraid to challenge hitters with the fastball), although only a couple mph and early in the season, is always troubling with a young guy. A trip to Tulsa probably wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world if he doesn’t show significant progress. The problem is that there’s no good replacement to fill in with the Rox. Chatwood also needs minor league work right now. I guess Moscoso could provide replacement level work for a few weeks.

      Yep, the season’s young, and I’m of the popular “they will hit” school. Shame to be wasting some good starting pitching (other than Chacin) early in the season, but that’s baseball. If I’m Jim Tracy I just pencil in my 8 best players 6 days a week and let them make things happen. The worst thing to do now is to micromanage us into oblivion.

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      • GARY

        April 10, 2012

        I agree on all points above,but I promise not to make it a habit.I guess there has been no direct addressing of the Helton issue because they figure to fill in by committee,ie.Giambi,Cudyer,Pacheco[the future?],and even Colvin.If Arenado is the real deal,and looks like our 3rd basemen for a decade,than they must address 1st in the off season.Todd looked good in ST and I’m hoping he’ll have one last good year.I agree with others that Moyers start wasn’t that bad.My worry is that he may be more hittable in day games than under the lights.Agbayani,that’s a good one for you.Moyers day/night splits over the past few seasons.I think if he starts working on a knuckleball he could pitch till he’s sixty!

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    • jaredean

      April 10, 2012

      Agbayani, just sent you an e-mail with info about this…

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    • Mike Raysfan

      April 10, 2012

      I loved the comments by Tulo and Cuddyer on fan “panic”. Tulo has a point. Look how last season started … and ended. Cuddyer’s was classic. Not time to start burning the bats yet.

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    • jeem

      April 11, 2012

      Well Jared, see how your angst has led to some absolutely fantastic, + most importantly, heart-felt comments. I think this is EXACTLY what the site is supposed to be.

      The obvious is we got hit with a nasty combination Sun then Mon. First the clearly irrational moves Sunday to waste Nicasio’s truly uplifting start. Then the shamefully flat performance amidst all of the pomp, hope, + hype of Opening Day. Readers were truly devastated + the “angry” comments resulted.

      A couple of other things to throw in here:

      1) The notion the Monforts are too “cheap,” + are just interested in “lining their pockets” is abhorent to me. They are willing to spend; they just want to be intelligent about it. Face it, until we get a championship the Hampton-Neagle, and no one dares say it, long-term Helton contracts are going to hang over the team. Reality is these long-term deals are unavoidable, but they are very daunting + frightening. Let’s hope the Tulo-Cargo contracts work out. But you’ve got to play the game. Look at Detroit: they’ve gone way out there in order to remain relevant among the Yanks + Sox.

      2) Ubaldo’s demise was a devastating blow. He was going to anchor a veteran staff with Chacin + Nicasio waiting in the wings. It was a delectibly enticing prospect. Now we have Chacin, who is clearly not ready, expected to be an ace. Then he gets called-out as a slacker + goes out + pitches like one in the opener. That’s going to bring-out anger. Ubaldo’s demise set the rotation back to zero + unfortunately has knocked the Rox back to a 2nd tier team, not a contender. Hence the cast of thousands, sufficiently mediocre that Moyer wins a job. The team is probably doomed from the start by this single circumstance.

      But the team needs to suck it up + play-on regardless, + not like they’re already mailing-it-in 4 games in, which they did Monday. Our anger was righteous.

      I’m losing my train of thought, but in the end, this site as a place to root, discuss, + yes vent, is fantastic. No need to apologize; when the team stinks it up we’re gonna be angry.

      OK. Let’s go win about 8 straight.

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    • Miketober

      April 11, 2012

      I like how you can see the shadows from the balloons on the ground in the banner picture at the top of the page.

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      • TJinPhoenix

        April 11, 2012

        Jared doesn’t miss any detail, does he? 🙂

        Let’s go boys-time to light up Lincecum. Or as my wife and I call him…”Mitchy” (for all your Dazed and Confused movie fans).

        GO ROX!

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