Hot Stove Phase 2 – Winter Meetings

rockymountainhigh

Hometown – Champaign, IL
College – Northern Illinois University, 1988
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    • rockymountainhigh

      December 4, 2015

      Looking at Rule 5 draft; copied/pasted from Rockies.com

      Rule 5 Draft: The Rockies can continue to build their collection of young, power arms. They choose fourth, and those arms are plentiful. Righties Corey Black (Cubs), Zack Jones (Twins) and Alberto Tirado (Phillies), and lefties Onelki Garcia (White Sox), Reymin Guduan (Astros) and Sam Selman (Royals) fit the bill. The lack of depth from the left side could be addressed here.

      If anyone listed above has command, we can safely bet that Bridich will add more power arms.

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    • rockymountainhigh

      December 4, 2015

      I’m already looking ahead to 2016 draft. 🙂 What ya think of University of Florida’s Logan Shore? I love the “strike throwing machine” quote.

      Scouting Grades: Fastball: 55 | Slider: 45 | Changeup: 60 | Control: 55 | Overall: 50
      A.J. Puk might be the more “famous” University of Florida starter, but it’s been Shore who has been the Gators’ Friday night starter for the first two years of his college career. He’s more about pitchability than stuff, but that’s led to a ton of success in the ultra-competitive SEC.

      Strong and durable, Shore is a strike-throwing machine with a potential three-pitch mix. While he typically has sat in the 90-92 mph range, he was touching 93-94 mph this fall and can command it well. Shore’s best pitch is his changeup, which he locates and sinks extremely well. Even when hitters know it’s coming, he still gets outs. Shore’s breaking ball is slurvy and a bit inconsistent. When it’s on, he’s virtually unhittable. It has the potential of being a third Major League average offering.

      There are teams that always like college performers on the mound. If Shore can keep that uptick in velocity and tighten his breaking ball a bit more, he could rocket up Draft boards in the spring.

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    • Gary

      December 5, 2015

      Greinke to the snakes! REALLY.How can they afford that but we can’t? Also DrewPo back in the division with the Padres.

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    • sdcarp

      December 5, 2015

      Very important info as we head into this weekend. Next season’s top 10 projected pitchers courtesy of FanGraphs and ZiPS.

      Keep a close eye on #9.

      Clayton Kershaw, 7.5 projected WAR
      Chris Sale, 6.0
      Max Scherzer, 5.8
      David Price, 5.6
      Corey Kluber, 5.3
      Dallas Keuchel, 5.0
      Jake Arrieta, 4.9
      Jose Fernandez, 4.8
      Carlos Carrasco, 4.8
      Felix Hernandez, 4.6

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      • sdcarp

        December 5, 2015

        FanGraphs has a nice article about what it might take to get Carrasco. Here’s the link:

        http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/coming-to-terms-with-carlos-carrascos-trade-value/

        Of course, the Rockies aren’t considered (as usual). But let’s consider the Rockies. For the sake of discussion, let’s say Cargo’s WAR will be about 4.0 for both 16 and 17. The Indians could definitely use an impact bat in the OF (at least one – maybe more). The Tribe also needs help at 3rd, so Ryan McMahon would likely appeal. It’s hard to say how much though…..because the Tribe (in theory – with the correct moves) could contend this year. A McMahon/Cargo + some salary relief for Carrasco might work if McMahon were one year closer. But as it stands now, I don’t see us having what the Indians will (correctly) want.

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    • sdcarp

      December 5, 2015

      The Shark to the Giants. Pressure is on the Dodgers.

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    • sdcarp

      December 6, 2015

      The developments in the NL West are interesting.

      First, with Geinke, the Snakes have 3 of the top 5 WAR projected NL West players for 2016 (Greinke, Goldy, and Pollock). They’re also rumored to STILL be the favorite for Mike Leake. A Greinke/Leake/Corbin 1-2-3 looks good. Their up-the-middle defense looks good. They still need a Closer. But they’ll be legit.

      By adding the Shark, the Giants have a great 1/2 SP punch. They’ll use their typical pixie dust magic to put together an over-achieving offense.

      The Dodgers – on the surface – have been left behind a bit. BUT…..they have a great Farm with several near ready “difference maker” type Prospects. Julio Urias for example. They’re also rumored to be “in” on Aroldis Chapman. Perhaps trying to simulate the Yankees Betances/Miller combo.

      San Diego seems stuck in a Rockies scenario – should we compete now, rebuild, or attempt to walk the tightrope between the two options. As we know – walking the tightrope doesn’t work.

      What does this mean for us humble, not invited to the dance, Rockies fans:

      1. First and foremost – in my opinion, it points to “rebuild” more than ever.
      2. But……I don’t necessarily see this as all bad (from the Rockies perspective). Arizona’s moves – while very bold – could really limit their flexibility by 2018 and beyond. Of course this corresponds to when we potentially could begin to see a rebound. Also……while I never expect to see the Giants be bad, I do expect their average at best Farm situation to ultimately have an impact on their Major League Club. So those two things could work in the Rockies favor.
      3. I’ll be watching the Dodgers closely. To some extent, I like the “restraint” they’ve shown so far. Sure, they lost Greinke and didn’t get the Shark. But they’re still good and sitting on a loaded Farm and have endless payroll flexibility if required. They could yet trade for Shelby Miller or Danny Salazar or Carlos Carrasco and be in a better position than either the Giants or the Snakes.

      Ag – if you want to do something realistic – do a PAT for 2018. I think (this always goes with the caveat “if we do the right things this offseason”) we can contend in 2019 without needing a PAT. But if Bridich can somehow really hit a proverbial HR this offseason with trades and somehow the Reyes situation works out (mostly) in our favor, we can put an interesting team on the field in 2018.

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    • sdcarp

      December 6, 2015

      Well that didn’t take long – Dodgers sign the very capable Hisashi Iwakuma.

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    • rockymountainhigh

      December 6, 2015

      Did u hear what Dan o’Dowd said on MLB winter meeting talk show? He said he would love to see Chris Davis in Colorado. He added that if we can’t develop pitchers, then just add more offensive firepower.

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      • sdcarp

        December 6, 2015

        I don’t have the MLB Network – damn it!

        That move makes no sense unless the payroll is increased to about 125M per year. It’s also wreaks of the typical Colorado strategy of not committing to building a fundamentally correct team. Of course it came from DOD – the architect of many of those fundamentally incorrect teams…….so it not completely unexpected.

        One caveat to my comment – if somehow the Jose Reyes situation broke incredibly in our favor (and I don’t see how the MLPA will ever allow that to happen), then my opinion could be swayed.

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    • sdcarp

      December 7, 2015

      Looks like the NL arms race is continuing unabated. Aroldis Chapman to the Dodgers. I know the Snakes were also pursuing him.

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    • rockymountainhigh

      December 7, 2015

      What warning carp? I never said that we must keep JDLR. I’m ok with moving him but it’s not going to happen because he loves pitching at Coors Field and he won’t waive the no-trade clause.

      De La Rosa does have a no trade clause because of his 10/5 rights. (as stated in the article). I don’t think anybody will pay him that much money for just one more year of his contract.

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    • sdcarp

      December 7, 2015

      Spillygoat is predicting Cargo to Cardinals for Marco Gonzalez. Their #3 prospect. Major League ready. Rocky Mountain HS grad. Dad is a coach in the Rockies organization. I like this, but it feels light. We should get one more player back.

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      • rockymountainhigh

        December 7, 2015

        A lot of chatter suggesting CarGo to NYM for Matz or Wheeler and another player.

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    • sdcarp

      December 7, 2015

      Rut roh – Aroldis Chapman trade to Dodgers held up pending alleged domestic abuse claim against Chapmam.

      RMH – I was complaining in earlier post that I don’t have the MLB Network. Well….I’m traveling most of this week and my hotel tonight does have it. It’s probably good that I don’t have it on a regular basis. I would get nothing done.

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      • sdcarp

        December 8, 2015

        Boy – this Chapman situation may be more toxic than the Reyes case. No arrest, but a gun involved.

        If I’m the Owners, I battle the almighty MLPA on this issue. These guys are going to get suspended. 50 games (same as 1st offense for PED) feels about right, maybe even a little light. I don’t pay them. Of course the MLPA will file a greivance, but this is a sensitive issue. It won’t play well in public for the MLPA.

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      • sdcarp

        December 8, 2015

        These guys should be placeholders on a rebuilding team.

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      • sdcarp

        December 8, 2015

        Holy shit – we gave Motte a 2 year, 10M contract. We’re idiots. He’s essentially Axford. He could have kept Ax for less – correct?

        Idiots.

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      • sdcarp

        December 8, 2015

        The Qualls deal is for 2 years as well – 6M.

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    • rockymountainhigh

      December 8, 2015

      Motte is not essentially Axford. He has far better command and issues less than 2 BB/9 walk ratio. The same goes for Qualls – very few walks. I see where the Rox are going with this; walking less is a top priority for pitchers. Motte > Axford; Qualls > than Kahnle. No more teeth grinding 2 walks sandwiched around a base hit for me. I’m happy with the signings. You all know how walks drive me up the wall.

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      • sdcarp

        December 8, 2015

        John Axford 2015 WAR = 0.8 Salary = 2.6M in 2015
        Jason Motte 2015 WAR = 0.3 Salary = 5M for 2016
        Chad Qualls 2015 WAR = 0.1 Salary = 3M for 2016

        Granted, we’re parsing the numbers of three really bad relievers (at this late stage of their respective careers – all three were once good). I also get that we have to overpay pitchers, although I believe this overpay shouldn’t be as extreme for relievers. I’d feel better about this if Motte’s deal was 1 year for 5M. Even then he would be getting twice as much as Ax got last year……and he may in fact be worse!

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        • sdcarp

          December 8, 2015

          In an concerted effort to find something positive in regard to these two signings, Jason Motte will begin 2016 about 80 live innings removed from his TJ surgery. That’s the point when many of the RP TJ patients gain 1-2 MPH and re-find a bit of a “groove.”

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    • rockymountainhigh

      December 8, 2015

      Spring training 2016 schedule has come out. I will be arrive March 5th and depart March 12th. Who else will be there? That will be three home games and three away games from Sunday through Friday for me including one at SRF@TS where there will be more obnoxious Cubs fans than the Rox fans.

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    • sdcarp

      December 8, 2015

      Hilarious comment from an Astros fan (via our friends at Purple Row):

      “The Astros’ bullpen imploded in Aug/Sept, costing them the division championship. Qualls was a big part of the implosion. He was left off the playoff roster at a time when the Astros were desperate for arms in the pen. They declined a $3.5 mil option, cheap for a reliever, when they’re #1 offseason priority is shoring up their pen to compete with teams like KC. Qualls is done, washed up. That the Rockies would sign him to a 2-year contract just confirms the ineptitude of the team’s front office in dealing with the long history of pitching woes. If you like Boone Logan, you’ll love Chad Qualls.”

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      • roxnsox

        December 8, 2015

        Yep. Predictable Rockies move is what I thought when I read about both of these guys. Pretty much past it, way overpaying. Woohoo! Yee-haw! I will, however, hope they are serviceable. (Our gold standard!) Or maybe even Jason Marquis- or Darren Oliver-level – i.e., nicely above serviceable for a while. (Am I remembering right about Oliver? may be somebody else…)

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    • sdcarp

      December 8, 2015

      It appears that Ben Zobrist is nearing a decision (by tonight the always reliable Twitter says). This should allow the offensive portion of the market to get moving.

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    • Agbayani

      December 8, 2015

      Some random thoughts on the “big” bullpen signings-

      1. Carp is right. Motte is Axford. (And maybe Qualls is Hawkins)
      2. RMH is right too. Motte is Axford in that he promises to be a reliever who may provide some late innings value in a bounce-back year (including the old favorite “experience closing”), but he accomplishes Axford-like results without the walks. Unfortunately, without the strikeouts too. So if you prefer giving up base hits to surrendering walks, I guess that’s a good thing. Definitely Bridich is done with the wild things. I do like that Motte is a flyball pitcher, since I think O’Dowd (and Bridich) for too long locked in on groundballers. Coors is not an extreme HR park, so there’s too much worrying about that. Flyballs turn into hits less frequently than groundballers, so there’s a trade off. Qualls on the other hand is the standard cheapo aging groundballer.
      3. In isolation, these moves are trivial but not insane. There’s probably a good chance Motte and Qualls give you a combined 2 or 3 ok seasons over the total 4 years of their contracts (2+2). Maybe you get lucky and they both have a good year in the same year.
      4. But … Why look at it in isolation? Open your mind a little and you’ll see just how trivial and small-thinking these moves are. Sure, they don’t commit any money beyond 2017, and we expect to be crap the next 2 years anyway. But here I go again: Logan + Motte + Qualls = $13 million next year for 3 aging and (if we’re lucky!) mediocre relievers. The Pirates just signed the Korean slugger Kang for $11 million over 4 years, plus the “posting fee” of $5 million. So they are committing an average annual payout to Kang of $4 million/year over the next 4 years. Even if he sucks that’s not gonna kill them, and it wouldn’t kill us in 2018-19 either. And there’s a chance — not a great chance, but a reasonable chance — that he’ll actually be good! And what better place for a slugger to maximize that chance than at Coors Field. So much like with Abreu a couple years ago, we never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Small men with small ideas.

      And that’s WAY more than anyone should ever bother to say about Chad Qualls and Jason Motte. But one more thing: get these guys off a really down year. They’re cheaper and just as good a bet to make it. I said Jim Johnson last offseason; he cost half of a Qualls. Of course we did get 2 playoff team relievers. Can’t beat that veteran experience. Except both were left off their respective team’s playoff roster. Maybe that tells us something …

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    • Agbayani

      December 8, 2015

      Oops, wrong Korean in my post above. This one is Byung Ho Park to the Twins. 4 years, $12 million. With the posting fee it’s an average of $6 million per year. So a bit more than in my original example, but the point remains the same: small men, small ideas here in Rockiesland.

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      • sdcarp

        December 8, 2015

        Ag – agree on Byung ho Park. I bet I had at least a half-dozen posts about him in the last month. It was no secret, and his ultimate cost was much less than I guessed.

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    • sdcarp

      December 8, 2015

      The big boys are playing now.

      As predicted, Zobrist was the keystone.

      Zobrist to Cubs
      Castro to Yankees
      A very solid Adam Warren to Cubs
      Shelby Miller to the Snakes

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      • sdcarp

        December 8, 2015

        The Snakes 1-2-3 of Greinke/Miller/Corbin are darn impressive and they still have Goldy and Pollock.

        The NL “haves” – Dodgers, Giants, Snakes, Cards, Cubs, Pirates, Mets, Nats. 8 teams, 5 playoff spots.

        The NL “have nots” – Rockies, Marlns, Padres, Brewers, Reds, Phillies, and Braves.

        The gap is huge. I’ll predict now that the Pirates will fall out of that top group slowly but surely as next season progresses. I think the NL East winner will be weaker than either of the Wild Cards.

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    • sdcarp

      December 8, 2015

      So simple math at this moment.

      Rox have 39 on 40 man roster (or will after Motte and Qualls pass physicals and officially sign). So there’s obviously a spot saved for tomorrow’s Rule 5 draft. There’s a bevy of hard throwing relievers available – but we’ve got a lot of those already…..so I’m sort of intrigued to see which way we go. Hopefully if we have the sense to pick this year’s Mark Canha (again), we won’t immediately trade him.

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      • Agbayani

        December 8, 2015

        Well, we really don’t have a first baseman (Paulsen looks o.k. as a bench player, nothing more), so this might be the year for a Canha type in the Rule 5. Some analysts like a kid name Balbino Fuenmayor out of the Royals organization – how could you not love the name – so again, why not?

        As for the Snakes — wow, I’ve got to hand it to them. Would have been easy to say it’s not our time, we have to wait for the Dodgers to hit a downswing, etc, etc. But they have a legitimately great hitter in Goldschmidt, Corbin looking healthy, nice pieces like Pollock … and they decided this is the time to make their move. When will we be there? And more importantly: (1) will our management/ownership know it when that window of opportunity opens? (2) assuming so, will ownership open up their pocketbooks in response? Count me as skeptical …

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        • sdcarp

          December 9, 2015

          Agree on 1B/Paulsen. He’s platoon at best.

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          • Agbayani

            December 9, 2015

            Paulsen: that’s how I had thought of him — lefty half of a platoon. But then I checked his stats … he basically hasn’t seen lefthanded pitching at all. So the mediocre stats he’s accumulated have been nearly 100% against righthanded pitching. In other words, I don’t see much more value to be extracted from him by maximizing his usage. Paulsen’s 28 now, and he has an overall 105 OPS+ in 420 plate appearances. That’s really marginal production for a first baseman. Compare Morneau as a Rockie: 120 OPS+, which included a significant percentage of at bats against lefty pitching. Looking at in another way, Paulsen last year ranked 30th in offense productivity among first basemen last year (minimum 350 plate apperances). So anyone who’s banking on the Rockies being “set” at 1B is probably saying “we’re o.k. with having one of the poorest producing starting first basemen in MLB”

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            • sdcarp

              December 9, 2015

              “So anyone who’s banking on the Rockies being “set” at 1B is probably saying “we’re o.k. with having one of the poorest producing starting first basemen in MLB””

              At traditionally the single most productive position. Not good at all.

    • Agbayani

      December 8, 2015

      Wow, didn’t realize the Dbacks are giving up 1st overall pick Swanson in the Miller deal. That took some nerve … as does the Braves doing a full Astros this year …

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      • sdcarp

        December 9, 2015

        The Braves have said multiple times they’re not dealing Freddie Freeman. But why not? They’ve gone 95% in on a nuclear rebuild. Might as well go all the way.

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      • sdcarp

        December 9, 2015

        I like Shelby Miller, but for the record, I think the Snakes gave up too much for him. Remember, they thought enough of Dansby Swanson to take him ahead of Brendon Rogers, even though Rogers was a near consensus #1.

        We’ll see I suppose. It looks (to me) like the Snakes have about a 2 year window now. Greinke is still in his prime, Goldy is still in his prime, and Miller and Pollack should still be on the upswing.

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    • sdcarp

      December 9, 2015

      I ran across this regarding the Shelby Miller trade (Fromm FanGraphs – a reader’s comment):

      “For one season of Jason Heyward (the Braves get):

      One All-Star year of Shelby Miller
      Tyrell Jenkins
      Four years of Ender Inciarte
      The No. 1 pick of the 2015 Draft
      A top-100 prospect in Aaron Blair”

      This is a very good point by an astute fan. It points to how far behind we are. We really, really struggle pulling the trigger on trades. We don’t grasp the “sell high” concept. We don’t grasp the “sunk cost” concept. In the meantime, we are competing against teams that not only get these fundamental concepts, they’re thinking several subsequent moves ahead simultaneously. Our trade for Tulo was truly outstanding (in a vacuum – or “isolated” as Ag says). But several other deals should have occurred at the deadline. I still think we’ll do very well in a Cargo deal, and believe it will happen this offseason. But is that single deal so consuming to our front office that we can’t simultaneously process Blackmon and Hundley deals? That’s my fear. We’re in a Formula One Race driving a Prius.

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      • Pooter

        December 9, 2015

        This pisses me off. I wanted the Rockies to get Shelby Miller…

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    • sdcarp

      December 9, 2015

      So in 2K15 the Mets hang around the Nats, make some bold moves at the deadline, get a big thumper in Cespedes, get hot for the playoffs, make to the World Series.

      The NY fan base was ecstatic. Super charged, What are they getting now? Presumably (if you believe what you read), not Cespedes. Instead…..Neil Walker. No way, I mean absolutely NO FREAKIN WAY can the Mets get away with only acquiring Neil Walker. They’re still a player for Cargo.

      Here’s my up-to-date Cargo scorecard:

      Mets – see above.
      Cardinals – waiting on Heyward. If they miss (which could happen) then watch out.
      Indians – previously discussed ad nauseum.
      White Sox – sleeper.
      Yankees – because they can’t let the Red Sox make all the moves.
      Orioles – depends on Chris Davis. A straight up Cargo for Kevin Gausman is an easy deal.
      Cubs – they have all sorts of Prospects. How about Kyle Schwarber as a 1Bman?

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      • Gary

        December 10, 2015

        I want a Cargo deal like the amazing haul the Braves got for Miller.Quit selling Cargo short.We can always trade Blackmon for a small return and keep Cargo-hope he goes off like this late season-then turn something major at the trade deadline.If all you brain trust guys are right about our “window” there is no reason to jump the gun just to get a deal done.The idea of a trade for Schwarber to play first however would really thrill me.

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    • sdcarp

      December 9, 2015

      From Rotoworld (they’re amazingly good at covering real baseball as well as fantasy):

      “Fox Sports’ Jon Morosi reports that the Rockies would be willing to move left-handed-hitting outfielders Carlos Gonzalez, Charlie Blackmon and Corey Dickerson.

      Presumably, they wouldn’t trade all three, though that’s not a given. Gonzalez is the biggest name in the group. The 30-year-old slugger started the 2015 slowly enough before turning it on the second half. The Orioles, among others, have reportedly asked about Gonzalez. He’ll make $37 million over the next two seasons.”

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      • sdcarp

        December 9, 2015

        I’m skeptical about the report about trading all three outfielders (although I’m all for it if the return is right)…..but if it occurs, I’ll have to retract my “Prius in a Formula One Race analogy.”

        If we are serious about trading all three, it opens up some new possibilities. For example, I think Seattle would like Cargo. But I haven’t included them in my scenarios because their Farm system isn’t pitching rich at the moment. They do however have an outstanding OF Prospect – Alex Jackson. He’s going to evolve into a power bat that also hits for average. Basically, he’s a RHed 19 year old version of Cargo. Most likely destination is RF. ETA 2018. He’s probably a fair one-for-one straight up deal for Cargo. Then use Blackmon and Dickerson for pitching.

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    • rockymountainhigh

      December 10, 2015

      Rockies very close to signing one-year deal with Mark Reynolds. Since it is rebuilding season, I’m ok with having a right-handed power bat to platoon with Paulsen. The only thing I don’t like about him is his super-high strikeout rate.

      I want hitters like Ben Zobrist who PUT THE BALL IN PLAY.

      I hope the Rox hold off signing Reynolds until after the Rule 5 draft cuz there is a first baseman similar to Canha that will likely be drafted tomorrow. I am presuming that the Rockies will add another power arm. If they draft someone in Rule 5 and sign Reynolds, the Rox will need to DFA someone. How about Ynoa? We don’t need both Ynoa and Adames.

      Did any of you read a recent article in the Denver Post about Tyler Matzek? He hired a shrink to restore his confidence. The article cited success stories from prominent players in the past such as Joey Votto.

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      • Gary

        December 10, 2015

        He’s still young.Greinke beat depression or some mental issues to be what he is today.

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      • sdcarp

        December 10, 2015

        In my opinion, the best thing for Matzek would be a change in scenery.

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    • sdcarp

      December 10, 2015

      From Jon Heyman:

      “On Tuesday, Heyman indicated that the Rockies, Cardinals, Giants, and Padres were all in the hunt for Reynolds. He’s now reporting that the Rockies are on track to wind up with the 32-year-old. In 432 plate appearances with St. Louis in 2015, Reynolds slashed .230/.315/.398 with 13 homers and 48 RBI. He’ll get a power boost playing half his games at Coors Field.”

      Similar to Qualls and Motte, this is a short-term placeholder. We’ve struck gold at the AARP portion of this year’s Winter Meetings.

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      • sdcarp

        December 10, 2015

        Some of you don’t like stats, so close your eyes (you might want to do that anyway):

        Mark Reynolds 0.4 WAR over the last three years combined, 1300+ ABs.

        Ag – with the Motte, Qualls, and Reynolds deals, I’m officially revising my current 2016 prediction to 57-105.

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    • sdcarp

      December 10, 2015

      This also piqued my interest:

      Jason Motte – 2 years, 10M
      Chad Qualls – 2 years, 6M
      John Axford – 1 year, 1M

      We don’t get the placeholder concept either.

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    • Agbayani

      December 10, 2015

      I’m seeing reports that Axford is getting the same deal as Motte – 2 years, $10 million. So that’s just reshuffling the “proven closer” (i.e., did o.k. closing games at some time in the last half dozen years) deck.

      Mark Reynolds? Ugh. There was a time — about half a dozen years ago (funny, that number keeps coming up) when I would have said sure, why not. Back then Reynolds was hitting 30+ HRs (44 one year). Not anymore. Strikes me as another one that will be sold to fans as “comes from a winning team” veteran experience. Shorthand for “he sucks, but maybe there’s some intangible magic dust thing that will rub off on his teammates.” Carp, you’re right … I’d take a flyer on that Balbino kid from KC in the Rule 5 as the platoon partner for Paulsen. Fangraphs “Steamer” projections project them as roughly equal for 2016, so why not take the cheap/young guy? It’s not like the Rockies are going to vault into competition this year anyway. I mean, they don’t really think this, do they? Sometimes I don’t know what they’re thinking.

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      • rockymountainhigh

        December 10, 2015

        That’s who I was trying to think of – Balbino – thanks Ag. Even cheaper and potential upside would definitely rather have him over Reynolds.

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      • sdcarp

        December 10, 2015

        2 years, 10M for Ax sounds more plausible. Thanks for the clarification Ag. I’d rather have Motte if the deals are even.

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      • sdcarp

        December 10, 2015

        A couple of weeks ago I posted a link to one writers top Rule 5 eligible players and Perdomo was on the list. In fact, as I recall, RMH singled him out as his guy. Cards #11 Prospect. Good move.

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    • sdcarp

      December 10, 2015

      Rut – roh. Shades of Mark Canha. Perdomo already traded – to the Padres.

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    • sdcarp

      December 10, 2015

      Heyward to decide today. Cards and Cubs rumored to finalists. Nice job by his Agent pitting those two against each other.

      I’m hoping for the Cubs. Cards and Rox would then matchup nicely for Cargo deal.

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      • sdcarp

        December 10, 2015

        Ironically, there is some thought that Blackmon is the backup plan for the Cubs.

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    • rockymountainhigh

      December 10, 2015

      What? You drafted Perdomo and traded him away to a division rival for a bag of baseballs????? I had my eyes sort of fixed on Perdomo to join the Rox and they did select him but threw him away. WTF?

      I saw a tweet by Purple Row and I totally agree with that opinion:

      Reynolds/Paulsen = 66 wins
      Parker/Paulsen = 65 wins
      any “star” firstbaseman = 68 wins

      doh save the money and spend it on pitchers, not Reynolds.

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      • sdcarp

        December 10, 2015

        LOL – I thought I remembered you liking Perdomo! Agree – on the surface it’s weird.

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    • sdcarp

      December 10, 2015

      More “rut roh Shaggy” –

      Orioles offer to Chris Davis “off the table.”

      Padres end with 4 – that’s right FOUR – Rule 5 picks.

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      • rockymountainhigh

        December 10, 2015

        Not surprised that Padres had four Rule 5 picks as their cupboard was essentially bare after going all in during 2014 winter.

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    • sdcarp

      December 10, 2015

      Braves may flip Ender Inciarte (obtained in the Shelby Miller deal). He’s a guy a I really, really like. Club controlled through 2020. Great speed, great defense. He’d be a perfect fit for CF at Coors.

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      • rockymountainhigh

        December 10, 2015

        I’d love to have Inciarte instead of Blackmon if we can move him or CarGo/Dicky.

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    • rockymountainhigh

      December 10, 2015

      Sources say Reynolds has agreed to a deal with the Rockies. Thanks a lot for spending $$$$ for a one game improvement over the Parker/Paulsen combo.

      I think the writing is on the wall for Kyle Parker to go the Tim Wheeler route.

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      • sdcarp

        December 10, 2015

        Your probably correct about Parker. But part of me wonders if this (along with the rather odd at the time Brandon Barnes resign) are signals that the rumors that all three OFers will indeed be traded are true.

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        • rockymountainhigh

          December 10, 2015

          I like your logic – hope Heyward pick Cubs over the Cards to open the door to the Cards as our dance partner for the OFs.

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    • rockymountainhigh

      December 10, 2015

      Luis Neibla another pitcher plucked in the Rule 5 minor league phase from the Yankees. A good move for essentially free without roster constraints.

      Those restrictions don’t apply to Niebla, who the Rockies selected in the minor league phase of the Rule 5 draft. Niebla, 24, posted a 4.50 ERA in 60 mostly relief innings across High and Double-A in 2015. Unlike Perdomo, Niebla does not need to be added to the active, or even 40-man, roster. He’s likely to begin 2016 in the upper minors as a reliever.

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    • rockymountainhigh

      December 10, 2015

      Info on Qualls (copied/pasted from PR)

      While Qualls’ strikeout rates have been decent the last few years, another asset he historically possesses has been his ability to get ground balls; after logging a 59.9% ground ball rate in 2015 (and a 57.9% rate for his career), the Rockies will no doubt count on him for that next summer. The ground ball rate makes sense when acknowledging Qualls’ pitch splits; the righty throws a 91 mph sinker three out of every five pitches, complemented by an 86 mph slider the other 40% of the time. He’s consistent against both righties and lefties; hitters overall have slashed .264/.315/.392 against him over twelve years, win a .707 OPS.

      Qualls has been especially on point the last two years in Houston, where combined (118 games), he allowed just 1.3 BB/9 while logging 8.0 K/9 and a 6.36 K:BB ratio over 100 innings pitched. And although his ERA has risen each of the last several seasons, his FIP numbers have remained fairly steady, perhaps indicating he’s pitching better than the final stats credited his way.

      So he’s been fairly proficient at limiting baserunners, he misses his fair share of bats and gets a ton of ground balls, and lately he’s been absolutely filling up the strike zone. All of those traits are certainly assets relative to relievers the Rockies have run out there over the last few years, and now the question becomes whether 2015’s fade is indicative of the end of Qualls’ career, or just a tough time for a reliever with some gas left in the tank.

      There are some troubling stats, of course; allowing a hit an inning over his big league career and 1.1 HR/9 in 2015 may paradoxically suggest Qualls is throwing too many strikes. But after the Rockies dealt with heavy walk totals from relievers like Tommy Kahnle, Rex Brothers, and John Axford last summer, it’s clear Qualls’ addition serves one notable purpose.

      Looking at his game log from this past summer in Houston, Qualls only gave up multiple runs in seven of his 60 appearances, but the last month of the schedule was tough on the righty. After allowing hitters to slash just .174/.174/.217 in July and .167/.205/.333 in August, Qualls hit the wall in September, and hitters slashed .387/.375/.548 against him with a wild .478 batting average on balls in play that month. Now, the Rockies will soon figure out whether September 2015 was a canary in the coal mine on Qualls’ career, or just an aberration for a veteran reliever.

      Reading this article makes me feel better about Qualls. I especially like the 1.3 BB/9 and 57.9% ground ball ratio in his career. He may be hitting the proverbial wall but let’s hope not before 2018. A good small gamble for the contract in my opinion.

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    • Bill

      December 10, 2015

      Personally I would rather have kept Rosario instead of Reynolds. Reynolds can (and has played) !B, 3B, SS and I believe OF. Unfortunately his natural position is DH and perhaps the Rockies haven’t figured out they are in about the only league in world that doesn’t permit the DH.

      Motte, Qualls and Reynolds would be nice additions for a veteran team fighting for a playoff spot. By signing with the Rockies they are keeping younger (and better?) players down on the farm.

      Frankly I’m sick and tired of the Rockies plan to get better. Because they don’t have one. They have basically ruined all their young pitchers because they have no one in the organization who can help their young pitchers with their arms (and their heads). They let both Rex Brothers and Tyler Matzuk flounder and eventually fail. Same thing with Pomeranz and we can only hope that Jonathan Gray will turn out differently.

      Ran into one of the guys that I used to share season tickets with 10-15 years ago. We spent 15 minutes talking. Neither one of us mentioned the Rockies.

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      • IggyRox

        December 10, 2015

        I agree 100%. What have the Rox done? Reynolds (bad BA, loss of power, lots of K’s), Qualls (old and in the way), Motte (3 years past his glory days), and setting the table to say goodbye to some of the only reasons to even pay attention to this sorry lot.

        We can call for a boycott, but all that would hurt are local restaurants and vendors.
        So I won’t call for one. Because I don’t care anymore. Still might come to the site, but

        Not caring is worse than anger. Anger requires emotion. Nothing to get emotional about at 20th and Blake anymore… well, at least after the hockey game.

        Mark Reynolds. Really? Just let Ben play and use the money to buy another mirror ball for the Rooftop.

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    • Agbayani

      December 10, 2015

      The Rule 5ers are always a crapshoot, so I’m not going to get too wound up about us not grabbing (and keeping) one. But what the hell, why not get a little wound up? Check out our polar opposite, the Padres. They’re taking 4 Rule 5ers into camp (unless they trade one). That’s insane … Or insanely brilliant? You get to evaluate them all spring training, then maybe keep the one that wins the tryout. And if 2 look good, trade 1 to someone else. Why not? The Rox would say “but you’ve got to put them on the 40 man roster, and ours is loaded with prospects.” But that’s why you don’t sign Qualls or Reynolds. Or why you don’t resign Barnes, a truly awful MLB player. Here’s his OPS+ numbers through his whole big league career:

      41
      76
      87 (hey, he’s improving! He may be useful in 2015!!)
      68 (oops. Maybe not)

      And THAT’S what we use a 40 man roster spot for? He’ll be 30 next year, so don’t hold your breath for that breakout season. Actually, this could be another reason to just DFA Reyes. He had almost no value at the end of 2015 (maybe you’d get someone else to cover about 10% of his remaining contract?), then he beat up his girlfriend (allegedly) making his value something less than zero. No one will touch him now. So after all that, on the Rule 5ers I guess what I’m saying is why not? When you have nothing to lose, you might as well act like you have nothing to lose. It’s a lot more fun.

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      • sdcarp

        December 11, 2015

        Preller made a bunch of “bold” moves last offseason. I was skeptical – too many “swing and miss” guys. I think you and others noted the significant defensive liabilities. Of course these concerns came to fruition and the Pads were awful. That being said……it’s my theory that Preller, in year #1, was doing what Ownership wanted. It failed. Now he has more leeway to do what he’s comfortable doing (solely my theory). My point…..I agree with you regarding 4 – Rule 5’s for a bad, building team. It’s brilliant. In baseball economics, $50K is nothing. Trying 4 to get 1 costs 200K. Still nothing in baseball economics.

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        • Bob K.

          December 11, 2015

          Actually it only costs $125K (return to original team gets $25K back) if you give three of them back and even less depending on what you can trade any of them for.

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    • Agbayani

      December 11, 2015

      119 outfielders have at least 1000 plate appearances over the last 4 years. By Runs Created + (fangraphs), Brandon Barnes ranks 117. And most of the guys around him are defensive specialists like Billy Hamilton. What do the Rockies see in this guy that I’m missing?

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      • sdcarp

        December 11, 2015

        My theory (or more accurately, my “hope”) is that Cargo, Blackmon, and Dickerson will be dealt in a near nuclear rebuild. So we’re positioning ourselves to field a team in 2016.

        Saw an interesting interview with new Phillies GM. He’s a stereotypical new GM. Young, smart, super well spoken. One thing he harped as a new Phillies organizational goal is not bringing players up to the Majors until they’re ready. 100% ready. Hopefully no return trips to the minors. I thought about his statement as it relates to us. The final jump to majors is a big one, and sometimes bringing guys up prematurely can do more damage than good. Some confidence and ego thresholds are fragile. Perhaps Kyle Parker is an example? Perhaps Eddie Butler is an example? Anyway……my “hope” is this AARP signing spike (Qualls, Motte, Barnes, Reynolds) is simply short term protection for guys like Dahl, Tapia, Miguel Castro, and the return players we get for Cargo, Blackmon, Dickerson, etc. This is the only logical explanation I have.

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        • Doc

          December 11, 2015

          What do the Rockies see in this guy that I’m missing?

          Don’t overlook what a great influence he is in the clubhouse. Ag 😉

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    • rockymountainhigh

      December 11, 2015

      Ok, St. Louis time to call JB and dance with us to get CarGo since Heyward chose the Cubs. I hope you are right about this scenario, carp.

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      • sdcarp

        December 11, 2015

        I just gave you 6 stars, even it only looks like 5.

        Here’s your PAT Ag.

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      • sdcarp

        December 11, 2015

        The Cards trade for Cargo (and 37M). Leaves them enough $$$ to get Mike Leake and Geraldo Parra. They don’t give up a compensation pick. They’re not on the hook for 6-8 years. They could be better off for it.

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    • sdcarp

      December 11, 2015

      A little update on the St Louis Farm System:

      Baseball America just recently updated their rankings (early November) a now list the Cards top 5 Prospects as pitchers (shocking – right!). They are as follows:

      1. Alex Reyes RH
      2. Tim Cooney LH
      3. Jack Flaherty RH
      4. Luke Weaver RH
      5. Marco Gonzalez LH

      Reyes is likely untouchable. Cooney is Major League ready, in fact he pitched in St Louis late in the season, Flaherty is a young freak. Just finished low A. Weaver just finished high A. Issued 19 walks during the entire 2015 season. Like that RMH. Then there’s Gonzalez. He’s a Rocky Mountain HS grad. Drafted by the Rox in 2010. Didn’t sign. Opted to go to Gonzaga. His Dad is a Coach in the Rockies system.

      You know the Cards will push Gonzalez. I’d do Luke Weaver and Gonzalez, but I’d really like Flaherty and Weaver.

      The Cards will play the Alex Gordon “card.” But he’s 32 and will be looking for 5+ years. Cargo makes so much more sense for them.

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    • sdcarp

      December 11, 2015

      Holy Cow (in my best Harry Caray voice) – Cubs get Stephen Strasburg for Jorge Soler and Javier Baez. Drew Storen also going to Cubs. Now that’s a trade!

      I think Strasburg is hurt.

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      • sdcarp

        December 11, 2015

        Oopsie – sorry RWOers. That was a proposed trade that a Cubs blogger retweeted. My apologies. I thought it came directly from the blogger.

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    • Bob K.

      December 11, 2015

      On MLB Network today O’Dowd was referred to as saying that Cargo is very comfortable and quite capable of playing the infield. Another person made the suggestion that the Pirates get Cargo and use him at first base. What the Rockies should get back was not mentioned.

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      • IggyRox

        December 11, 2015

        Then why the heck don’t we keep him and put him at 1B… dump Ben and Reynolds, and start building the next generation with a guy at 1B who could be there for another 10 years with a great bat?

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        • Gary

          December 13, 2015

          and less strain on his legs and fewer walls to run into.

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    • Agbayani

      December 11, 2015

      So Soler not dealt … yet. But everyone seems to think he’s the spare part the Cubs will part with. What do you guys think of him? I can’t make up my mind — still a great prospect, or will that high K rate relegate him to the Mark Reynolds type of player?

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      • sdcarp

        December 12, 2015

        The fact the he shows up in every Cubs trade rumor, along with the fact that Theo is a smart guy, makes me think “use caution.”

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        • Agbayani

          December 12, 2015

          Kind of what I was thinking. Funny, if you’d offered me Soler for Cargo straight up last June, I would have been all over it. But Soler showed no real development, and then Cargo caught fire in the 2nd half. Not sure I’m interested anymore.

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    • Julian

      December 12, 2015

      How about a three team trade: Blackman to the Cubs, Soler to a third team, and that third team sends us pitchers. Who would the third team be? I would think that the Cubs would love to have Charlie. Would we get enough in return to be worthwhile? What team with excess pitching would really want Soler?

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    • sdcarp

      December 12, 2015

      Appears the Nats are interested in Cargo. Just checked Nats top 10 post 2015 prospect via Baseball America. #5 Reynaldo Lopez (RHP – #5)) and Austin Voth (RHP – #9) seem about right.

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    • sdcarp

      December 12, 2015

      Seems to me since our friend Michael Cuddyer retired, Blackmon would be a good fit for the Mets. I’ll take Cheyenne, WY Brandon Nimmo (OF) in return. Nimmo is post-2015 Mets Prospect #5 per Baseball America.

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    • sdcarp

      December 12, 2015

      Have to say, I’ve looked over the Royals current Prospects and I’m not as impressed as I thought I would be. They had the dream Farm system in the 2005-2010 time frame, but it seems to be slipping. That being said…..I do like Raul Mondessi Jr.

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    • sdcarp

      December 12, 2015

      Researched the most up-to-date CWS top Prospect list and I continue to maintain we matchup with them better than many think. They have the following obtainable (IMO) top Prospects:

      #3 RHP Spencer Adams
      #4 RHP Carson Fulmer
      #5 RHP Tyler Danish
      #7 OF/1B Courtney Hawkins

      I’ve seen Hawkins play in ST. To this point, he’s played OF, but he’s a 1Bman in my opinion. Huge guy. Think Ryan Howard. Gigantic power. Needs to reduce K rate.

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        • sdcarp

          December 13, 2015

          I do RMH – and in the “big picture” im definitely not changing my tune. But I think we’re far enough away from contending that I’d take best available talent in certain situations. For example, I like Raul Mondesi Jr from KC far better than anyone else they have at the moment. The Mariners CF Alex Jackson is far better than any pitcher they have in their system.

          This offseason is teaching what I’ve long preached……Prospects are gold. They can easily be flipped again down the road for more specific needs. We’ve got to think two moves (or more) ahead, not just one. Also…….we do a nice job developing offensive prospects. We’re a disaster with pitchers. We obviously need to improve with pitchers….but in the meantime we can play our strength and develop offense…..then trade for pitching late in the process.

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    • sdcarp

      December 14, 2015

      FYI – our friends at Purple Row are currently having their Rockies Top 30 Prospects Poll. You have all week to post your top 30. I did so this AM. Here’s my top 30:

      1. Brendan Rodgers
      2. Jeff Hoffman
      3. Ryan McMahon
      4. Jon Gray (I’m high on Gray – but not quite as high as most. However, I will say this (being an old guy) – in 1987 the Braves traded 36 YO Doyle Alexander to the Tigers for a kid named John Smoltz. Smoltz was brought up in 88 and struggled. But he started taking off in 89. Physically, Gray reminds me a bit of that 20 YO Smoltz kid. Not even remotely saying Gray will become Smoltz “like.” But I see some physical similarities).
      5. David Dahl (think Adam Eaton of the CWS)
      6. Antonio Senzatela
      7. Trevor Story
      8. Forrest Wall
      9. Kyle Freeland (nice to see him re-establish himself in the AFL).
      10. Raimel Tapia.
      11. Dom Nunez (this is the C in the system I like. Big bat AND defensive skills).
      12. Breiling Eusebio (18 year old LH SP. Key stats from Domincan Summer League – 72 IP, 76K, 1.88 ERA. I’ve never even seen a photo of this kid. But the DSL is no joke. Any 18 YO LHed SP with a K/BB ratio like this opens my eyes)
      13. Mike Nikorak
      14. Tom Murphy (I’m not as high on him as many. See him as a swing-and-miss C without great pitcher skills. He just got rid of one of those. IMO this is the Prospect we should be shopping the most).
      15. Jesus Tinoco (the steal of the Tulo trade. Was really tempted to go higher. Kid throws strikes).
      16. Miguel Castro (signing Qualls and Motte to 2 year deals make me think we’re going to try turning Castro into a SP).
      17. Phil Nevin (move him to 1B).
      18. Peter Lambert (I think he’ll throw strikes).
      19. Jairo Diaz.
      20. Tyler Anderson.
      21. Christhian Adames
      22. Daniel Montano
      23. Carlos Herrera.
      24. Alex Balog.
      25. Ryan Castellani.
      26. David Hill (another guy that I think will throw strikes).
      27. Wander Cabrera.
      28. Carlos Estevez.
      29. Sam Moll.
      30. Jordan Patterson.

      By Christmas, I hope we’ll be able to insert 3 of the following names (or similar):

      Raul Mondessi Jr (KC)
      Alex Jackson (Sea)
      Spencer Adams (CWS)
      Carson Fulmer (CWS)
      Tyler Danish (CWS)
      Courtney Hawkins (CWS)
      Luke Weaver (StL)
      Marco Gonzalez (StL)
      Reynaldo Lopez (Was)
      Austin Voth (Was)
      Brandon Nimmo (NYM)

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      • sdcarp

        December 14, 2015

        It was interesting doing this Purple Row exercise. It actually made me think wholisticly about the entire Organization, instead of randomly talking about individual guys. A couple of things jumped out at me with my 2019 contention window (and playing 500 ball in 2018) vision:

        1. We don’t have a legit 1B Prospect on the surface. This is nothing new. We knew this. Going into 2015, I was an advocate of eventually moving McMahon to 1st. But the scouting reports of his 3B defense are really good. Tyler Nevin may move to 1st, but he’s 3 years away. There’s a couple of other swing and miss guys (Prime for example) that will never make it.
        2. If the goal is 2019, and playing 500 baseball in 2018 as a stepping stone, then any SP involved really should have at least 1 year of major league experience prior to 2018 – and that’s on the light side. 1 1/2 to 2 years would be better. With that in mind, Jon Gray’s developmental time line is synced nicely. But then we have a gap to that really good, but young looking group currently at the A, SL, or DSL levels. Jeff Hoffman is in that gap…..we may see him late 16. Freeland, due to his injury setbacks, probably won’t be ready until mid-17. With this in mind, and knowing our track record with pitchers, and how pitchers get hurt in general, it seems like we should net at least one AAA level pitcher (and probably two) in any Cargo/Dickerson/Blackmon trade. Of all the names that I’ve listed (and let’s face it, I’ve thrown a lot of shit against the wall!), only Marco Gonzalez fits that timeline. St. Louis’s #2 Prospect Tim Cooney (he pitched in St Louis late this year) also fits the profile. But it seems unrealistic to expect Cooney AND Gonzalez in a Cargo trade.

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      • rockymountainhigh

        December 15, 2015

        I think u meant Tyler Nevin, not Phil the father. Nevin will stay at 3B as long as it takes until he’s really blocked at 3B.

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        • sdcarp

          December 15, 2015

          Oops RMH – of course you’re correct. Tyler Nevin. But who know’s, Phil may be the Rockies next Manager!

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    • rockymountainhigh

      December 15, 2015

      I did my top 30 list on PR also:

      1. Brendan Rodgers – the new #1 prospect with Gray soon graduating off the list
      2. John Gray – hope you have MLB success as stalwart member of rotation that Rox so badly need
      3. David Dahl – last summer injury set him back a few months unfortunately, but love his tenacity
      4. Jeff Hoffman – drafted back to back with Freeland in 2014
      5. Ryan McMahon – Is he the next Arendado?
      6. Kyle Freeland – back to back picks with Hoffman – injuries dropped him a couple spots
      7. Raimel Tapia – puts balls in play which is what Rox need as they struck out too much at Coors
      8. Mike Nikorak – Bridich in January 2015 was actually checking him out as a potential #3 overall pick, but he was still available at #27!
      9. Forrest Wall – need for speed and future 2B
      10. Antonio Senzatela – steady progress thru the various levels
      11. Trevor Story – We need a replacement for Tulo, still worried about his excessive strikeouts, but some improvement
      12. Dom Nunez – I’m higher on him than Tom Murphy
      13. Miguel Castro – looks like he can be one of the needed arms in either bullpen or rotation
      14. Ryan Castellani – good 2nd round (2014) pick out of HS and pitched well against older guys
      15. Tyler Anderson – he would have been much higher, but injuries are a concern
      16. Tom Murphy – I like Nunez better, but Murphy has a chance to take McKenry’s spot on the roster next year
      17. Christian Adames – profiles as super utility player which is why I didn’t have him higher
      18. Jesus Tinoco – I have high hopes that he was the steal of the Tulo trade, but don’t forget how Pom/White turned out
      19. Peter Lambert – UCLA recruit but convinced by Rox that they think highly of him
      20.Tyler Nevin – He looked good for a HS player in first year of pro ball
      21. Kevin Padlo – very talented infielder out of HS (ain’t HS picks the trend of late by the Rox organization?)
      22. Daniel Montano – as others said, #12 international prospect so he could be an impact player?
      23. Alex Balog – starting to rise to the ceiling
      24. Jairo Diaz – thank u Josh Rutledge for getting him in return; need for velocity out of bullpen
      25. Jordan Patterson – starting to make name for himself rising through the levels
      26. David Hill – excellent pick in 2015 draft; Rox can never have enough pitchers
      27. Javier Medina – I’m still high on him; think Nuggets drafting Emmanuel Mudiay out of nowhere
      28. Zach Jemiola – good year before minor injury
      29. Breiling Eusebio – I like sdcarp’s catch of this DR prospect; low BB/9 ratio; have him lower than sdcarp’s rating (#12) cuz I was high on Jayson Aquino but he didn’t work out need to see how he does stateside first
      30. Sam Moll – trying to figure out if he has a future after his slow start to pro career but he’s getting better?

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    • ProgMatinee

      December 15, 2015

      so…whats the most idel front office in the MLB up to these days?

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      • rockymountainhigh

        December 15, 2015

        Huh? About half of the MLB teams are waiting out to see where the dominoes fall before making moves. Rockies won’t be idle all the way through ST. I will have a heart attack if CarGo shows up at SRF@TS in a Rocky uniform. JB has already gotten two veteran bullpen arms (Qualls and Motte) that won’t walk guys that cause us to chew the nails off our fingers.

        Besides the focus is on stocking up pitching talent for the 2017/2018/2019 window of time. Pitchers obtained (other than draft) since JB took over – Diaz, Hoffman, Tinoco, Castro, Hale, etc. More coming via CarGo bait. If you look at several Purp30 lists on Purple Row, we have a ton of pitchers drafted in the last two or three years listed there.

        The Rox are not going to go all in when there is virtually nothing to play for in the next two years. Look at San Diego – they emptied their farm system and now they are buried in the basement for the next several years. Do we expect to trade for a top shelf pitcher like a Kershaw? Nah

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        • ProgMatinee

          December 16, 2015

          I’m not saying they should bring in players. I’m mostly talking about them divesting talent and the lack of action.

          Rockies have always sat around, watched all the dominos fall into place and realize that everyone already addressed all their needs already and the Rox excuse turns out to be “we really liked where we were at with our current roster”. Meanwhile the guys they should have traded are blocking the prospects. See Brad Hawpe, Garret Atkins, etc.

          Time to move one of the OFs if you’re going to do it. The longer you wait the less demand there is. For example, once someone signs Chris Davis that’s one less team needing an OF.

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          • ProgMatinee

            December 16, 2015

            I guess the question is: is there more supply or more demand for OFs?

            IMO the supply in OFs seems higher than the demand. Furthermore, the teams in contention that need an OF are going to be fine paying FA prices and save their prospects for midseason deals. Eg. sign Dexter Fowler in lieu of trading for Blackmon.

            After the FAs are signed the Rox are going to be looking at historically cheap teams who want a controllable player like Blackmon or Dickerson. Those cheap teams are also the teams least likely to part with the better prospects.

            The best option, IMO, is not to limit your potential partners by letting too many dominos fall.

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            • rockymountainhigh

              December 16, 2015

              There are still some OFs available like Justin Upton, etc but they are coming with high price tags. Contending teams are seriously considering CarGo since he is cheap allowing the team obtaining CarGo to have extra cash to sign a top tier veteran pitcher.

              Cards, Royals, and Nats have top prospects in baseball. Even the Chisox are thinking about CarGo as they have Carson Fullmer who I like.

          • rockymountainhigh

            December 16, 2015

            So the Rockies were “idle” trading away Tulo for three pitchers in Purp 30’s top 15 list?

            CarGo is the most talked about trade bait in all of baseball. JB is letting at least three teams “bid” for CarGo, jacking up the value of CarGo. Cardinals, Royals, and Nationals are rumored to be most interested in CarGo and they all have farm talent to give up to the Rox.

            Cubs and Rox are talking about Charlie Blackmon now that Dex Fowler is a FA.

            JB is willing to give up DJLM but second basemen are not in demand and we’re not giving him up for a bag of baseballs.

            We can agree to disagree, but nobody can say that trading Tulo is considered standing on the sidelines.

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            • ProgMatinee

              December 16, 2015

              Tulo was traded months ago and all the Cargo and Blackmon talk is just that.

              Its time to pull the trigger this offseason before the 3 teams vying for Cargo becomes 1 team and your leverage is gone.

              IMO its not that Monfart meddles, its that he’s indecisive. Hemming and hawing over what to do until the point in which there’s only the 1 choice left and it usually isn’t the best one to make.

              Lets contemplate, was the midseason trade of Tulo the best return or was it basically the only option left before the deadline? There’s no way you’re telling me if we traded Tulo in December of last year that we’d be stuck with a contract like Reyes.

            • rockymountainhigh

              December 16, 2015

              If we traded Tulo and/or CarGo last December 2014, we would have gotten two bags of baseballs. Their values were rebuilt and Toronto gave up #7 overall 2014 pick and two top tier prospects to get Tulo for the playoff push.

              Now CarGo has rebuilt his value back up due to a healthy and productive year. JB is now the “auctioneer” with CarGo on the market. Historically all the major trades are done AFTER the winter meetings are over.

              Most trades are planned in a few steps, not in the trade itself. We were glad to take Reyes and get rid of Tulo’s contract for a net savings of millions. That will free up the dollars for signing a top tier free agent for the window of contention after 2017. JB has it all planned out. My gut feeling is that NoDo will be signed to a significant deal once CarGo is traded which frees up the $$$ for NoDo.

              “Cargo and Blackmon talk is just that.”….You have to talk and it takes time. When the price is right, you pull the trigger. JB will pull the trigger in a nanosecond when the return is right for the Rox. I doubt the Monfarts will meddle because the trade of Tulo happened so fast that Monfart didn’t have a chance to meddle. That’s a big clue that he no longer will meddle as much as he used to.

          • sdcarp

            December 16, 2015

            Prog….I’m hoping you’re wrong, but thinking you’re correct. I believe the Dodgers are going to beat us to a deal with the White Sox…..a team (the WS) that we match up very nicely with.

            My gut instinct as always said Monfart meddles way too much in personnel decisions. So we can’t move as quickly as needed (if at all). He probably had to go to therapy after the Tulo deal…….so we were unable to make other deadline deals.

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            • sdcarp

              December 16, 2015

              Unfortunately – I was correct. WS/Dodgers/Reds complete 3 team trade and WS give up Frankie Montas (I higher – or at least equal – rated Prospect as Carson Fulmer). So the WS did give up one of their nice pitching Prospects to get a bat (at 3rd – probably more important to them than OF). Regardless, it’s safe to now mark them off the Cargo list.

    • sdcarp

      December 16, 2015

      I’ve read from various (and always reliable – ha!) internet sources that Nats are considering Brandon Phillips and he even contacted Daniel Murphy’s Agent. Perhaps a Cargo/LeMahieu package might entice them to deal several of their young pitchers. Nothing wrong with one stop shopping!

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    • sdcarp

      December 17, 2015

      Three team trades always confuse me. It’s a lot of information for my poor feeble brain to process. But this Dodgers/White Sox/Reds trade is a real head scratcher. Let me see if I get this;

      White Sox get Todd Frazier. They needed an impact bat, a 3Bman, and he’s relatively cheap. So I get it from their end.

      Dodgers get Frankie Montas and Micah Johnson (a poor man’s Dee Gordon). I REALLY get it from their end.

      Reds – get Jose Pereza and a couple other Prospects not as highly regarded?????? What’s the deal? They seem like the clear loser in this deal.

      How did the Dodgers get away with giving up 1 generally highly regarded MI Prospect in exchange for another fairly highly regarded MI prospect AND a very highly regarded pitching Prospect? Montas may well be their Closer as early as 17 (even though they’ll toe the standard party line and say they see him as a starter).

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    • sdcarp

      December 18, 2015

      The strange offseason for the Dodgers continues. Free Agent (near) signing Hisashi Iwakuma falls through due to questionable physical, so Iwakuma resigns with Mariners. This on the heels of the near trade for Aroldis Chapman. So basically……the Dodgers pitching staff is still where it ended in 2015 with the huge exception of missing Zack Greinke, and having a pissed off, nearly left at the alter, Closer in Kenley Jansen.

      Mark my words……these guys will do something major before the start of Spring Training. Of course there was much talk of a Dodgers Jose Fernandez trade during the winter meetings. FanGraphs currently has an article advocating the Dodgers trade for Chris Archer. I have to wonder if they’ve inquired about Chris Sale. We’ll see soon enough I suppose.

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    • ProgMatinee

      December 18, 2015

      Fun question: What MLB team would you think appears on the most no-trade clauses?

      Its hard to say any team would appear more than the Rockies, right? You have to think almost every half decent pitcher that would have such a clause would have us on there. Maybe Miami because of their shit management/ownership, but what multi-millionaire wouldn’t love to spend their off days in South Beach.

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      • Bob K.

        December 18, 2015

        That is an interesting question but I suspect that the Rockies is not the answer. From what I have seen the more likely a team is to want to trade for a particular person, the more likely that team is to be on the player’s no trade list. A few players actually put teams on their no trade list because they don’t want to go there but most put teams on their no trade list as leverage to gain better deals or some form of compensation.

        The Yankees are on a lot of no trade lists.

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      • sdcarp

        December 18, 2015

        Well – I can certainly see the Rockies being on many-a-pitcher’s no trade list. But we shouldn’t be on any everyday player’s no trade list. So I’m not sure where that puts us in the big scheme of things.

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    • Julian

      December 19, 2015

      With the number of free agent outfielders remaining, I’m concerned that we may not find a trade partner for CarGo.

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      • sdcarp

        December 20, 2015

        This appears to be a good, fair deal for everyone involved. Good for Otto!

        I’m completely comfortable, and even bullish, on RPers returning from TJ. Since we’re destined for a disasterous 2016, I advocate being very cautious and ease Otto back slowly. That being said, it would be cool to see him get about 20 live innings late in 16.

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    • Bob K.

      December 22, 2015

      12/10/15 – Rosell Herrara signed as Minor League FA.
      12/15/15 – Jason Gurka signed as Minor League FA.
      12/18/15 – Gonzalez Germen signed as Minor League FA and assigned to Albuquerque.
      12/19/15 – Jackson Williams Catcher signed as Minor League FA and assigned to Albuquerque.

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      • Gary

        December 25, 2015

        Lots of other teams are actually signing REAL major leaguers to minor and major league deals.Of course just like last year we stand pat!

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    • Gary

      December 25, 2015

      Merry Christmas to you all and thanks for letting me post my often drunken rants and ideas on our great site.

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      • sdcarp

        December 26, 2015

        They’re awesome Gary -keep them coming.

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    • IggyRox

      December 25, 2015

      Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone. Thanks for the many hours of good reading (and me composing rants) that RWO provides. Would say I’m looking forward to another great season… perhaps I’ll just say looking forward to the discussions.

      John

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    • Bob K.

      December 25, 2015

      The Padres have a mess on their hands as a “mentally ill man” took legal title to Petco Park by filing out a deed transfer, as David Garrick of U-T San Diego writes. The man, Derris Devon McQuaig, cannot truly claim ownership to the building, but he can create a hassle for others. “I don’t think in any way it would be deemed credible because it’s pretty clearly just a ‘wild deed’ that has no legal sufficiency,” Olson said. “But it could cause headaches for someone down the road.”

      http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/james-shields-padres-dodgers.html

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      • rockymountainhigh

        December 28, 2015

        According to PR, it was minor league contract. They also signed Jason Gurka to minor league contract.

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    • Pooter

      December 28, 2015

      Yankees sign Ardolis Chapman. I would have liked it if the Rockies traded for him with the incentive to once again be a starting pitcher. Do the same with Wade Davis. Have fireball closer mentality pitchers in the starting rotation. Think outside the box….

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      • sdcarp

        December 28, 2015

        The Yankees are thinking Chapman 9th and mixing and matching Betances and Miller in the 7th and 8th. They’ve shortened the game to 6 innings. The big enough, powerful enough, and rich enough to pull this off.

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        • sdcarp

          December 28, 2015

          Brilliant move really. They get to audition him for a year to see if they want him as a FA. If not……they will likely get a compensation pick.

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      • Gary

        December 31, 2015

        Good for him.Great guy and team mate from all accounts.

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    • Gary

      December 31, 2015

      Happy New Year to all! I do expect it to be even more painful than last year and have given up on ever seeing another World Series team here in my lifetime.Regardless of talent and prospects the Monforts will never spend enough to compete with the other teams in the division let alone all of MLB.That being said,I still think $ 10,000 a pitch{Greinke} is obscene and tarnishes my love for the game! Happy New Year anyway.

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    • Gary

      January 8, 2016

      Although not a native I’ve been here since 1976 and I noticed something in the Post I believe pertinent to all Denver b-ball fans.An obit of a guy in a Cardinals cap caught my eye earlier in the week.It was for Vern Rapp.Denver Bears coach and manager as well as big league Manager and coach of Cards and others.I know he is very well liked and respected in all Denver baseball circles.Just thought I’d mention it and say R.I.P.Vern.

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      • Gary

        January 9, 2016

        If he could have a healthy season he might be worth it.

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      • rockymountainhigh

        January 12, 2016

        That’s a great signing with a caveat – move Corey Dickerson for a pitcher in return. I haven’t looked up his K rate, but if memory serves me he was one of top five in MLB for lowest K rate? That plus his Gold Glove in LF meets two different “Winning at Altitude” criteria of my essay. (great defense in OF and very low K rate).

        Comments on PR suggest Dickerson for a pitcher like a Kevin Gausman or a Nick Tropeano.

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        • ProgMatinee

          January 12, 2016

          Its seems like a lot for a 30 year old, 3rd best outfielder, on a last place team.

          If we were the Cubs or Mets I’d say “great signing”.

          To me this just says we’re adding a guy that adds to the block in David Dahl’s eventual progression.

          Reminds me of adding Ty Wiggington or Jose Lopez or Kevin Kousmanoff to play 3rd base when you know that you really should be letting Nolan Arenado play some games in 2012.

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    • sdcarp

      January 12, 2016

      I’m withholding judgement until everything plays out. In a vacuum, it essentially makes no sense. Also, seems like a big part of the “sell” to Parra (whom I like) is playing alongside his longtime buddy Cargo. So let’s take that at face value. That means either Dickerson or Blackmon gets moved. Parra shouldn’t play CF. So that makes Dickerson is the (more) logical choice. I’m OK with that……as long as the return is correct. To me, Dickerson should bring more in return (maybe not much more….but more) than Blackmon. More upside. More controllability. I liked Blackmon for Tropeano (and still do). So who does Dickerson bring in return? Julio Teheran – I do it. Michael Fulmer – I do it. Kevin Gausmann – I do it. Let’s allow this to play out and see where it goes. If we get a good, controllable, young pitching talent for 3 years-27M (Parra’s contract), then Bridich has worked the system to our advantage. It may yet happen.

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      • Bob K.

        January 12, 2016

        At this point the Rockies have not been able to trade any of their current outfielders for various reasons with the main reason being that the rest of the league don’t feel the Rockies outfielders are worth what the Rockies are asking.

        Now they go out and sign a surplus outfielder thereby signalling to the rest of the league that the Rockies also don’t believe their outfielders are worth keeping making it even harder to get what they want in return.

        Real brilliant maneuvering by the Rockies. ROFL

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        • Gary

          January 12, 2016

          Agreed Bob! In a vacuum Carp—everything the ROX do is in a vacuum or in a universe full of laughing gas.Terrible waste of money for no good reason.

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          • sdcarp

            January 13, 2016

            I like it (meaning your comment…..not the deal).

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    • Agbayani

      January 12, 2016

      Thoughts:

      1. Parra is not very good. Projects as a below average hitter, which is particularly bad if you are a corner outfielder. He has a good defensive rep, coming off what advanced fielding stats say was an awful defensive year. I’ll assume he recovers and is at least average range-wise with a good arm. That means he’s better overall than a Cuddyer, so this signing doesn’t come close to that one on the idiocy scale.

      2. Would people stop saying we have a crowded outfield? First, Blackmon (and probably Dickerson) should platoon, which means we have exactly the outfield components a good team would want. Saying it’s a crowded outfield is acknowledging that this is not a good team. Plus, who’s going to play 1B? Don’t tell me Ben Paulsen. Again, a good team would move Cargo or Dickerson to 1B and use the execrable Mark Reynolds as a pure RH bat off the bench. There is plenty of room for this club to carry Blackmon, Dickerson, Cargo, and Parra …

      3. … but it won’t. As carp notes, in a vacuum this is up there on the idiocy scale. But we know Monfort (I assume only the sober one has any say now?) can’t stomach the Astros rebuilding plan, so bringing in guys like Parra keep that 67 win mark (and marginal respectability) intact while they shoot for 2019. Or whenever. Hey, O’Dowd did this kind of deal all the time in the previously darkest years: Preston Wilson, Jeromy Burnitz, etc, etc. I guess it worked because we all know what happened by 2007. So if this convinces Monfort that it’s o.k. to flip one or more of Cargo/Dickerson/Blackmon for young pitching, I’m o.k. with it …

      … But that doesn’t change the fact that Parra still kind of sucks.

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      • sdcarp

        January 13, 2016

        Not a peep about RHed Austin Jackson, who could really use a 1 year pillow contract. Not a peep.

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    • Agbayani

      January 12, 2016

      Correction: don’t know why I was thinking Parra was a RH bat … I guess because acquiring another LH bat makes even less sense. Oh well …

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      • Gary

        January 12, 2016

        Exactly,idiot signing to go with geriatric bullpen signings.Glad I’m cancelling ROOT.

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        • sdcarp

          January 13, 2016

          Gary – agree. The Motte and especially Qualls signings were pure lunacy. The only logical (there I go again……attempting to apply logic to the BSCS) reason is that Miguel Castro will transitioned to a SP.

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          • rockymountainhigh

            January 13, 2016

            Motte and Qualls were not lunatic signings, IMO. They are upgrades over pitchers that issue walks (Brothers & Kahnle). Bridich is simply dumping high walk pitchers in favor of low walk pitchers. And the next two years are rebuilding years. If we are contending this year and/or next then that would be a lunacy.

            I don’t get anybody’s logic who hate those signings to upgrade the bullpen.

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        • rockymountainhigh

          January 13, 2016

          Geriatric bullpen? Let’s see, Motte is 33 and Qualls is 37. Compare with Mo Rivera and LaTroy Hawkins. Age is in the eye of the beholder.

          As for Parra, he is not 30, he’s only 28 and will finish his contract at 31 years old. Much younger than Cuddyer and Morneau. If Parra has a great three years, then the club has the team option for his fourth year which is cheaper than a top tier free agent.

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    • Agbayani

      January 13, 2016

      Here’s the thing: these signings aren’t awful because they don’t have any negative impact on our (if we’re lucky!) competition window, which doesn’t open until at least 2019. But they are frustrating because they reek of O’Dowdism. Do folks realize that the Rockies just committed $16 million per season over the next 2 years to guys who may — if they are very, very lucky — add about 3 wins to our total per season? Look, I don’t control the Monforts money, but if I’m Bridich I’m having that difficult conversation with Dickie — do you really want to shell out that kind of money to go from the projected worst team in MLB to possibly the second worst team in MLB in 2016? Or would you rather take some of that money and sink it into, say, Latin American player signing and development? Or maybe take a flyer on one of the Korean signees who have a chance of actually being good?

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      • sdcarp

        January 13, 2016

        Step up to the final rung on the ladder……its Monfartism…..not O’Dowdism or Bridichism.

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    • Doc

      January 13, 2016

      What’s this window everyone is talking about? The playoffs every 5 year-window which is now 7? IMHO any talk of windows or long-range plan is purely delusional.

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    • rockymountainhigh

      January 13, 2016

      Reports circulating is that CarGo will NOT be traded at least this off season. So it comes down to Dickerson or Blackmon that will be traded very soon. Angels, White Sox, Tigers, and Orioles reportedly are bidding for the services of Dickerson/Blackmon.

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    • Agbayani

      January 13, 2016

      Well, they can’t move Blackmon unless they’re willing to stick Parra in CF, which would be a really bad idea. Maybe they’re more confident than we think that Dahl will be ready by early summer? I still think the Parra signing makes sense only if Cargo is on the way out, and only if Cargo can bring an actual highly rated pitching prospect.

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      • Gary

        January 14, 2016

        You forget the other BIG signing of Barnes, obviously to roam center and hit .225 with his RH bat speed.

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    • sdcarp

      January 14, 2016

      Sometimes reality is harsh:

      http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-decline-of-carlos-gonzalez-star-player/

      Given the decline of Cargo (and his contract) vs. the relatively friendly contract of Blackmon and very friendly contract (and age) of Dickerson, the truth is we’re probably getting better offers for Dickerson and Blackmon. As Ag and others have noted, Parra doesn’t need to be playing CF. With that in mind (and given the reality of the market and the value (or lack thereof) of our players), my hope is that Dickerson is the OFer dealt. The caveat being if Dahl is ready by mid-season. In that case – and given that we’re going to suck anyway – Parra for a half season in CF is tolerable (meaning Blackmon can be dealt instead).

      I’m throwing this out because it’s obvious Monfart isn’t buying into an “all-in” rebuild. This unfortunate, it will make the process longer.

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    • Agbayani

      January 14, 2016

      Gary, somehow I did forget about Brandon Barnes, the answer to my question: “How can we actually do WORSE than Drew Stubbs?”

      carp, I think you’re on to something. Bridich’s main role is Monfort Management. I have a feeling Bridich would be all-in on the rebuild, but instead he’s forced to placate Monfort by making a series of minor moves to keep the Rockies from plummeting into the 100+ loss range. This isn’t necessarily awful, and Bridich has done a good job of keeping those 2018 and beyond years free of bad contracts (even Parra’s 2018 contract is perfectly manageable). Looking back at what Dayton Moore did in KC, we see a lot of the same — players brought in to keep the team nominally competitive while never losing sight of the ultimate goal. Remember Gil Meche signing a 4-year deal with KC in Moore’s first full season? Seemed to make no sense, but Meche was an important bridge starter in retrospect, probably buying Moore and his project more time. KC almost ran out of patience, which may explain Moore deciding the future is now beginning with the James Shields deal. The problem with the plan is half-committed rebuild is a whole lot slower than the Astros/Cubs model …

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    • Bob K.

      January 15, 2016

      Arenado signed for 1 year for $5MM.

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    • sdcarp

      January 16, 2016

      Chris Davis (re)signs with the O’s, 6 years, 161M. These Scott Boras negotiations are getting predictable.

      To me, Cespedes is clearly the next most desirable player because he’s not tied to a compensation pick. I’m going to laugh if he ends up back with the Tigers. If that occurs…..they leased him to the Mets for 2 months and Michael Fulmer. Not a bad gig!

      Since the White Sox first pick is protected, Justin Upton makes sense for them.

      I pity the Club that gives up compensation picks for a Dexter Fowler and/or Ian Kennedy.

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