How Did Colorado Get Into This Mess?

Most, if not all, of the RWOers fingers are pointed at the front office specifically Jeff Bridich and Dick Monfort.  It all started according to some at the trade deadline 2018.  Nothing was done to bolster the team for beyond 2018.  Seunghwan Oh was the only one that helped in 2018, but the sabermetrics said that he won’t be any good in 2019.  What happened to trading for a relief pitcher like a Rafael Bettencourt?

Actually maybe we can go farther back to the time Todd Helton retired from playin first base.  They were grasping at the straws to get a new first baseman.  Big fail for years.  Ben Paulsen, nope.  Signing an athlete to play first base (Ian Desmond) which was too expensive to not provide gold glove defense and slugging.  FAIL.  Signed Dan Murphy and moved him to first base, again nope he can’t bail out the gold glovers on the left side of the infield with smallish power.  Take a look at what St. Louis Cardinals did – traded for Paul Goldschmidt!  POWER and GLOVE!!!  Matt Adams was available cheaply as well.  Justin Bour was also available but not a real good option but better glove than Murphy.

How about catchers?  Tony Wolters is a great find but is he really a starting upper tier catcher?  Nah we totally blew off Yasmani Grandal who was available for a long time.  Got to have somebody like a Yorvit Torreallba who was clutch in stretch runs.  Instead they went with Chris Ianetta for two years. UGH.

Outfielders – Charlie Blackmon is a great hitter, but signed him for what five years which was way too long.  And the Rockies stuck him in CF the whooooooollleee season 2018.  He had the worst range by far in the major leagues.  They could have tried to trade him last off season to the AL for a right handed bat and/or pitchers.  Again look at St. Louis – they signed Marcell Ozuna to be their  slugging right handed outfielder.  He would have been way better than Dan Murphy or Charlie Blackmon.

Pitchers – We had glorious opportunity to sign Dallas Kuechel or Craig Kimbrel.. FAIL.  Did not trade for Marcus Stroman when he was dangled in front of JB.

Colorado needs to look in the mirror and fix their shortcomings.  One is getting a real hitting coach who develops hitters like the Dodgers did.  Also, they need to hire sdcarp and Ag to join the front office and be the talent analysts.  As sdcarp, mentioned in another thread, ALL of our division rivals have very good sabermetric teams and acquire them.  And get rid of the big unneeded salaries?  If San Diego can do that from a few years ago, then Colorado can do same.

Ok, time to start giving ideas on how to restructure the Rockies in the comments below!  A few comments were started on the previous post, so sorry I was late to get the new thread started.

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I’ll leave the good ideas and comments to our resident wise ones. I’m not one, and even if I were, my mind is much too boggled. As previously mentioned.

Have any of you had the stomach to even watch lately? For the first time ever, I have skipped it this week. Glancing at the results each morning to see how bad it was… bad. Bad. Bad. It’s expected now. How very sad.

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Unless something strange happens in the next three weeks, this will the first year since my wife and I moved to CO (2008) that we haven’t attended a game. We even attended one the first wins in “the streak” in 2007. To be honest, some of this has to do with I-25 between FoCo and Denver. But, it mostly has to do with the Rockies. My Rockies mood took a turn for the worse at last season’s trade deadline, and… Read more »

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It’s the first year in team existence that I have not attended even one game, and usually go to several. I was out of town on Opening Day: one down. Since then, I’m singing the same tune as you: it has a lot to do with traffic between the mountains of Boulder County and downtown Denver. (But since about a month ago, when the picture became very clear, interest has died altogether when combined with the ordeal and expense of… Read more »

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RMH – I’m cutting and pasting this from end of previous story so it doesn’t get lost: Tangential example of how far behind the Rockies are, and what they’re up against: 2019 Amateur Draft: After years of neglect, the Rox have correctly identified (too late) the gaping Organizational hole they have at 1B. In 2018 with their 2nd pick, they took Grant Lavigne. Lavigne showed all sorts of promise @ GJ. I was driving the Lavigne bandwagon. But…….he’s proven very… Read more »

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Don’t judge Lavigne too harshly just yet. He was seriously injured around the start of the season. I am not convinced that he is fully recovered. It isn’t like the Rockies don’t have a history of rushing players back from injuries.

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Duly noted Bob. In fact – I’ve been the driver of the Lavigne bandwagon. I’m picking up what you’re putting down!

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RMH – regarding hitting (and this likely applies to pitching as well) – your comments takes me back to the end of last year when there was much sentiment for a new hitting Coach here at RWO. I wanted a new hitting Coach. I raised my hand. But I cautioned that so many players these days have personal instructors that the impact might not be what it once was. Here’s how it works these days………….there’s an Organization wide “guru,” and… Read more »

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I was never impressed with the hiring of Mark Wiley as the pitching coordinator. This year, I have not been impressed with how Bud Black has managed the pitching staff. I was not impressed with how the Rockies handled the hitting coach situation from the day Black was hired and definitely not how they handled it last off season. Everyone knew that Espy had to go. Why did the Rockies wait until after everyone else had filled their hitting coach… Read more »

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Bob – this is pure gold:

“The whole good ole boy atmosphere that Black uses only serves to maintain the status quo. If they really want to get better, they need to revamp the whole organization.”

You’re 100% correct. Unfortunately, I think this start much higher up than Bud (i.e. the Monforts).

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It is really sad when Desmond was the Rockies most effective pitcher tonight. I am guessing that this was the first home run Desmond has hit as a pitcher.

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Rockies call up Drew Butera and DFA Noel Cuevas to make a 40 man roster spot for him. They also called up Josh Fuentes.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/09/rockies-select-drew-butera-dfa-noel-cuevas.html

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DFAing Iannetta has certainly turned this pitching staff around! Josh Fuentes was a sleeper prospect last year this time. After an awful repeat of AAA this year, he’s now the guy getting called up as a favor to his cousin Nolan. And Drew Butera: why? Just … why?
Meanwhile, Bryan Shaw and Wade Davis continue to embarrass Bridich every night.

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Fuentes was injured most of the year. Don’t forget Jake McGee in your list of embarrassments. I think right now that you can include all of the relief pitchers as an embarrassment.

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Speaking of strange call ups, both Joe Harvey and Phillip Diehl were called up on Aug. 26 and then optioned back down on Aug. 27 without seeing any game action. At least Rico Garcia (called up Aug. 27) was used to start one game before being sent back down on Aug. 28.

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No one claimed Noel Cuevas. The Rockies outrighted him off of the 40 man roster and sent him to AA. They also called up Phillip Diehl and Joe Harvey again. Maybe they will actually get to pitch in a game this time.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/09/rockies-outright-noel-cuevas-promote-phillip-diehl-joe-harvey.html

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Cuevas was sent to AAA.

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Jeff Hoffman: getting the strikeouts now, leaving too many pitches up … reminds me of Oberg when he was Gopherg. I still think he’s best suited to the bullpen, but the good news is he’s showing signs of actually being a major leaguer. On the other hand, the offense now … against a lefty, look at how easy it is past Arenado (batting 3rd) – lots of time for the opposing pitcher to put it into cruise control mode: -Desmond… Read more »

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Dahl will not return this year. He is scheduled to be the center fielder next year.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/09/david-dahl-will-not-return-in-2019.html

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This is smart, and good news too. I’ll be happy to see him in center field, and I’m holding fast to my belief that he is going to be a star for us.