NICE KICKS, ANYWAY

NICE KICKS, ANYWAY

ROX HUMILIATED IN ARLINGTON; METS, MARLINS ON FOR A LITTLE MILE HIGH HOSPITALITY

It doesn’t get any worse than that.

Sunday afternoon Jon Gray had actually pitched as well as he has in a month, but a Keystone Kops kind of 6th inning put him in the soup, and a 3-run Jurickson Profar home run did him in.  A 5-1 Colorado Rockies lead evolved into a 6-5 deficit, but the Rockies were having none of it, and answered with a 5-run top of 7th to run back out 10-6.  The problem with that was shaky Jake McGee and his right-handed cousin, Brian Shaw, and by the time Chris Rusin got Isiah Kiner-Falefa to line-out, The Texas Rangers were back within 10-9.  Adam Ottavino, who is back by the way, kept things in order in the 8th, and Trevor Story hit a 2-run homer in the top of the 9th to move the Rockies further out to a comfortable 12-9 edge.

Which brought on Wade Davis, and it was terrifying to watch.  Davis walked Delino DeShields leading off.  DeShields stole 2nd as Davis walked Nomar Mazara.  Profar flew to left to no effect, but then Rougned Odor singled to load the bases.  Davis walked Kiner-Falefa, forcing-in DeShields.  Colorado 12, Texas 10.  Davis walked Joey Gallo, forcing in Mazara.  Colorado 12, Texas 11.  Davis took back-up catcher Joey Trevino full, then Trevino lifted a little pissy pop fly over the head of Story and in front of left-fielder Gerardo Parra.  Odor scored.  Kiner-Falefa scored.  Texas 13, Colorado 12.  Rangers Walk Off.

The ban on rhyming is over.  The Rockies are trudging their way fitfully through their annual June Swoon (the regularity of the phenomenon is too consistent to deny).  They’re 4-12 in their last 16.  Back in Philadelphia on Tuesday the Phillies got out ahead on Gray and hung on to win 5-4.  Colorado got one back Wednesday behind Tyler Anderson and a 5-run 4th, then Thursday afternoon the Phils powered right through German Marquez and 3 Rockies relievers 9-3.  In Arlington Friday Colorado got a win for Chad Bettis, who overcame a 5-run 1st.  Left-hander Kyle Freeland was out with another strong outing Saturday before getting nicked for 2 in the 7th.  Harrison Musgrave couldn’t maintain, and took the loss after coughing up 3 in the 8th.  The Rockies had Tom Murphy, up from AAA Albuquerque, and Ian Desmond on 2nd and 3rd with nobody out in the top of the 7th and failed to deliver anybody.  Talk at the time was “what a devastating loss,” but times were innocent back on Saturday.

The flight out of Dallas into DIA last night was no doubt lively and full of fun.  Colorado now has to deal with its to-date lack of success home at Coors Field, as the New York Mets visit for 4 tonight through Thursday.  Anderson (4-1, 4.48) gets the call for the Rockies versus Jacob deGrom (4-1, 1.55) of New York in this evening’s 6:40 MT tangle in downtown Denver.  Marquez gets a shot at Jason Vargas tomorrow, and Bettis gets Seth Lugo Wednesday, both also 6:40 MT tussles.  Freeland is back on Thursday at 1:10 in the afternoon against Steven Matz in the final tilt of a series that takes on special importance with the Miami Marlins, who Colorado is congenitally unable to beat, on for 3 more on the weekend.

Late posting shows the Rox have lost the RWO.  Nothing more to do but blaze-on.

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“Late posting shows the Rox have lost the RWO.” – Fair statement. To follow-up on Ag’s assessment on the previous thread – I think he’s spot on, perhaps even a little kind. +/- 3 years ago……I was on the “Jon Gray can be a great reliever” bandwagon. In fact, I was sort of driving the band wagon. Of course the Rox, and even Gray, came darnn near proving me wrong. But my bandwagon still has life – hop on if… Read more »

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Point of reference – the Nats just gave up their #10 and #11 Prospects, along with a young Dominican arm for Royal’s Closer Kelvin Herrera. Herrera is solid, but not great. Ottavino type. The Rockies CAN NOT sit around and cry in their milk. Act now….before it’s too late.

Bob K.
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Rockies sign Jairo Diaz to minor league contract.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/06/rockies-to-re-sign-jairo-diaz.html

roxnsox
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It’s like there’s a virus infecting the bullpen. You think it can’t get worse, then it does. What do you guys mean by “lost the RWO?” The site is withering because of not much commenting? I’ll be here as long as the other stalwarts are. You’re my go-to. Other sites are too crowded with stuff for me to pick through; “our” little site is cozy. Even in down times. Thanks to Jeem and RMH and carp for feeding us posts,… Read more »

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“lost the RWOers” means (I presume) that most of this group have lost hope for the Rockies in 2018.

Agbayani
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Jeff Bridich, The Definitive Scorecard, Or the Case for The Fire-able Offenses Against Baseball. Not for the impatient…it will take us some time. Kind of too soon for the Draft Scorecard (given that the first draft he was in charge of as GM was summer 2016) so let’s focus on the big-league transactions. Appointed GM after O’Dowd and Geivett “resigned” after the 2014 season 2015 transactions: November 24, 2014: Juan Nicasio was traded by the Colorado Rockies to the Los… Read more »

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“Traded Tulo for Hoffman/Castro/Tinoco and a couple years of Jose Reyes’ dreadful contract. MAJOR WIN. But not as major as it could have been in retrospect because those 3 prospects are 2 busts and one headed in that direction.” It was recently pointed out by the Rockies broadcasting crew that Miguel Castro is currently the 3rd best relief pitcher at stranding inherited runners. Rockies could really use someone that can strand inherited runners. Most of these deals where you are… Read more »

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Ag – this is brilliant. I have thought about doing this very thing, but don’t have the time or energy. Love how you categorize the transactions (MAJOR FAIL!). Couple of quick comments: 1. Im really tempted to say Juan Nicasio is “EPIC FAIL.” That guy has been a damn solid RP for a number of years now, for cheap. We could sure use that, huh? This speaks to a big picture problem #1 – the Rox insistence of making every… Read more »

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Maybe it’s something about “Make those miracles happen” attitude surrounding Denver sports teams, but I still find myself “wishing and praying” some magical cat named Rhubarb would stroll through the dugout and remove the dreadful curse which infects this team. If nothing else, the atrocious bullpen has forced the hitters to pile up runs instead of resting on early three run leads. I still believe we’re only a hex-removing voodoo ceremony away from having a decent bullpen. I’ll donate the… Read more »

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Bob K. and Carp, thanks for making it (most of the way?) through my diatribe. I realize it was even worse than I meant it to be because I’d been compiling it off and on for a few days in a google doc, and when I pasted it into a comment here all the paragraphs dropped out. Bob K., good comment on Castro. I’m still not sure why they gave up on him. Do folks realize he’s still only 23?… Read more »

roxnsox
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Ryan McMahon, thanks for the big fly that saved our asses, now enjoy some more Albuquerque. I know, they need pitching. Is Almonte a starter or a reliever?

Bob K.
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Almonte is a starter but there is nothing preventing them from using him as a relief pitcher. I believe he was used in relief in the Arizona Fall League and did well there.

sdcarp
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sdcarp broken record version 100.1 – relief pitchers are cool. “Super” relief pitchers are really cool (and ridiculously useful). Dellin Betances sort of started this trend about 4 years ago. He’s on the downturn now, but guys like Josh Hader, Amir Garrett, Archie Bradley, Raisel Iglesias, etc. are taking this super-reliever concept to a whole new level. You know you could join this elite club and be even better? Jon Gray. Let one of Almonte/Hoffman take Gray’s place in the… Read more »

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Yhency Almonte -Hold. Jeff Hoffman -Hold. As you know, I’m not opposed to using these guys in relief (even though “Hold” is a bit of a goofy stat). In fact, I’m fully supportive. Just a bit more on Jon Gray…..as noted above, I think he could be a great relief pitcher. But for those absolutely bent on keeping him in a SPer role, I’ll be the first to admit there are numerous peripheral stats in 2018 that point to him… Read more »

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I’ve been poo-poohing the Rox a lot lately, I’m still mortified at our horrible Front Office 2017/2018 off-season. But…….I can see a narrow path to turning things around IF a bolt of lightning somehow strikes the FO and Bud…..causing them to think differently: 1. Get Dahl back healthy and use him. 2. Keep playing Murphy. 3. Desmond continues his modest resurgence to mediocrity. 4. Use our best arms in the highest leverage situations, regardless of the name on the back… Read more »

Agbayani
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Carp – if I had to say which Rox starter is best suited for a bullpen role, I think I’d go with Marquez. I mentioned this when we were talking about Nicasio – Marquez reminds me a lot of him. But that only works (Gray or Marquez to the pen) if you’ve got somebody else to fill that 5th starter role. Personal opinion: I’d do something radical like the Rays “opener” thing with Rusin – let him go once (and… Read more »

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When you and I become General Manager, I’m willing to negotiate which SPer(s) see Pen time!

rockymountainhigh
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Didn’t you guys say Senzatela is best for bullpen role a year or so ago? I still think this is the way to go and leave Gray alone.

sdcarp
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sdcarp

I did (especially in context on him presumably being innings limited in 2017- which I believe in hindsight turned out to be true). Keep in mind….Senza was used in the BP earlier this season. Too small a sample size to determine outcome. Regardless, my thought there is similar to Gray……big arm, big talent, only 2 reliable pitches. Big picture RMH….I want to see our 25 most talented guys, which means some might be in unfamiliar roles. Taking that a step… Read more »

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I was sticking with Gray as SP before the game tonight. He changed the grip on his sliders and it had worked wonders the last two starts. Even though he had that one bad inning, it was all BABIP’ed to death. Four soft grounders with seeing eyes between 1B and 2B in one big inning. and a jammed bloop. Tonight he showed why he should continue as SP if not being BABIP’ed to death.

sdcarp
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sdcarp

Name to watch – Roberto Ramos.

rockymountainhigh
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rockymountainhigh

My name to watch is Bryan Shaw.

By the way, I’ve been unable to write a new post cuz CenturyLink hasn’t fixed our lost internet connection. I’ve been without internet since Wednesday.

Agbayani
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RMH, I’m with you on Gray. BABIP this year: .379! Next highest among Rox starters is Marquez at .317. The other 3 starters are in the .280 – .290 range. Gray’s peripherals look great, and that leads to a 3.02 FIP, actually better than last year’s. So I think he’ll be fine, although I do think (and this is why I snarkily refer to him as our Small Game Pitcher) that Carp is right that he has some mental issues… Read more »

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Valaika was recalled and Almonte was optioned to AAA. FINALLY, Brian Shaw was put on the 10 day DL and Almonte was recalled.

sdcarp
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Food for thought: 1. Rockies are 38-40 after this weekend’s debacle against the lowly Fish. Dangerously close to mid-season. 2. As of yesterday, the Rockies only have 10 games remaining against teams that are currently sub 500. Think about that for a minute. We’re 2 games under 500 against the bad teams. Marlins. Mets. A number of games against the Padres. Cincinnati. Texas Rangers. These games are done (except a few more against the Padres). 3. We’re 6.5 behind the… Read more »

roxnsox
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Turn out the lights, is the takeaway from this meal of carp’s. How did this happen with “all that talent?” Is there one glaring area upon which to pin the blame? Bullpen epic fails? Not hitting and pitching at the same time? What?

I’m down. The late games this week will give me a good way to distance myself a bit by not watching much.

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Believe it or not…..I normally a “glass is half full” personality (I get that I probably don’t come across that way since my 79-83 prediction prior to the beginning of the regular season). I’m also logic/fact driven…..and it’s a “fact” that the 2017/2018 off-season was an epic fail from the Front Office perspective. What we really needed to do was sign or trade for a big bat, preferably RHed, preferably 1st base. It was so obvious.

roxnsox
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roxnsox

I’m curious about how many teams have the courage to sell high. Anybody want to weigh in, in general, proportion-wise, names of teams who have the tendency to go for it, etc.?

roxnsox
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roxnsox

And yet another way to lose, last night!

sdcarp
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sdcarp

Ag…..going back to your “Definitive Scorecard,” – please help my poor, old feeble memory…….was not protecting Dan Winkler in the Rule 5 Draft a Bridich move, or was that at the end of the O’Dowd era??????

As of last night, Winkler’s ERA with the Braves is 2.48, with 42 K’s in 32 IP.

I hate the Braves, but as an Organization they have more intelligence in their pinky finger that the Rox have in their entire Organizational body.

Bob K.
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O’Dowd was out as the Rockies GM on Oct. 8, 2014. The Rule 5 Draft was Dec. 11, 2014 so technically, Bridich was in charge at the time of the draft. It is my understanding that the decision to not protect Winkler was because they did not want to pay him a Major League salary to be on the DL. I suspect that decision was made by a group and not just one person and was simply a money saving… Read more »

sdcarp
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I know what you saying Bob (and thanks for the history)……but thinking that move saved money is shortsighted by the Front Office.

Bob K.
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Bob K.

I agree with you since Winkler at the time of his injury was an outstanding closer in the minors.

sdcarp
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sdcarp

Jon Gray to AAA. Interesting. I’ll be intrigued to see how he’s used in ABQ.

Bob K.
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Bob K.

Or is it the beginning of the end for Gray?

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Bob K.

Unless something changes during the remainder of the season, I do not expect Arenado to sign an extension with the Rockies. I think they should trade him now for everything they can get.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/07/nl-notes-arenado-brewers-cubs.html

Doc
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I’d put Gray in the bullpen for a couple of years until he matures emotionally. I’m curious to see if Senzatela has developed a third pitch and/or can go 7 innings.