SINGULAR IMPERATIVE

SINGULAR IMPERATIVE

ROX, DBACKS IN ONE MORE DANCE FOR SPOT IN TOURNEY

It is without doubt uncool to be talking baseball while we’re all struggling to come to terms with another exercise of grotesque inhumanity, this time in the city of Las Vegas, Nevada.  The load of wrath and sorrow that’s come down on mankind over the past month or so is barely comprehensible.  It is knocking down the spirit on the edge of a season that could be cause for joy.

The Colorado Rockies logged their 87th and final win of the 2017 regular MLB season Friday evening with a rousing 9-1 triumph over the Los Angeles Dodgers at Coors Field in Denver.  On Saturday afternoon the (then) 85 win Milwaukee Brewers blew a 6-0 lead over the St Louis Cardinals and fell 7-6, a strategically fatal miscalculation that left them trailing the Rockies by 2-1/2 games with one to play.  There were no further mathematical combinations the Brewers could fall back upon.  Colorado got the grab on the visiting National League Wild Card and will face-off with the Arizona Diamondbacks Wednesday at 6:00 pm MT in Phoenix at Chase Field.  Jon Gray (10-4, 3.67) goes against Arizona’s Zack Greinke (17-7, 3.20) in a battle of ace right-handers.

The Rockies decided to mail-it-in for their final two games with Los Angeles once news of the Brewers’ demise became official.  They took a 3-0 lead after 2 on Saturday before giving it back and falling 5-3.  22 Rockies played, 6 of them pitchers, and a big celebration occurred following the contest, despite the result being a loss.  Sunday Colorado fell behind 5-0 by the 5th inning before scoring a run in the 6th and 2 in the 7th.  The Dodgers would nevertheless prevail, 6-3.  20 people saw action on Sunday, again 6 were pitchers.  Call me an old fuddy-duddy, but it all seemed unsuitably casual to me.  After all there are still fish to fry, or at least rattlers to subdue.

But back on Friday, when consequences were still in-play, the Rox got busy early, getting 3 in the 1st and 2 in the 2nd against Los Angeles left-hander Hyun-Jin Ryu.  Nolan Arenado got the party started with a gigantic 2-out solo homer to center, then Trevor Story knocked a single and came around on an even larger blast off the bat of Mark Reynolds.  Ian Desmond worked Ryu for a walk leading-off the 2nd and scored run no. 4 when Charlie Blackmon, who has become the National League Batting Champion, drilled a big shot of his own, opposite field, to right.  Walker Buehler held Colorado in-check for an inning, but in the 4th Arenado singled with two out and this time it was Story who would drop one over the wall in center.  Tony Cingrani took over for Buehler in the 5th and was immediately greeted with a Carlos Gonzalez double.  Desmond made out on a line drive, Jonathan Lucroy got a base-on-balls after a 9-pitch at-bat, and starting pitcher Chad Bettis loaded the bases when he reached on an error.  Gonzalez scored on a passed-ball while Blackmon was batting, then the MVP candidate drove-in Lucroy with a single, pushing the lead to the final score of 9-1.  Bettis worked 7, giving-up a run on 4 hits, and Carlos Estevez and Scott Oberg each delivered an inning of scoreless relief.

So now we come upon this most curious of events, MLB’s one-and-done contest to determine which Wild Card advances to the post-season.  Certainly capricious, perhaps unfair, the one chance to make good on the other 162 is uniquely baseball, where if you haven’t taken care of business by securing your Division, you subject yourself to the whims of a single contest of skill and chance.  The New York Yankees and Minnesota Twins take their turn tomorrow night, also at 6:00 MT, going after it at Yankee Stadium in the Bronx.

The Rockies, who headed to Phoenix this afternoon, and Diamondbacks have played 19 times in 2017, Arizona taking 11 of them.  But as sdcarp has pointed-out several times, Colorado has had greater success in the desert than home here in Denver, a marker of 5-5 at Chase Field versus one of 3-6 at Coors.  The DBacks were back and forth the first half of 2017 before taking control after the All Star break and emphatically winning the home card.  Colorado conversely got off to a big start then had a long, grueling drive to the finish, virtually backing-in to secure the other one on the Milwaukee loss.

Arizona has a strong, deep, veteran lineup, richly deserving of a post-season run.  But our Rockies are strong and deep too, even battle-tested after a contending season’s long grind.  It’s just one more test against a rival we’ve already beaten 8 times.

I like our chances.

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Interesting Stat Cast numbers for Jon Gray, Greg Holland, Carlos Gonzalez, Zach Greinke and others.

https://roxpile.com/2017/10/04/colorado-rockies-statcast-notes-rockies-dbacks-wild-card-game/

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A singular imperative indeed! Eerily quiet here among the RWO crowd, but I hope we all have lots of happy comments later on and tomorrow Let’s go, Rockies!

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I won’t be checking in until it’s over since I’m wedded to watching the DVR slightly behind (skip the commercials). Kind of miss the chat from olden days, though, and if we still had it I’d be joining in real time.

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I’ll save all the “what a great season overall” pleasantries for later. For now, it’s time to vent: 1. WHAT THE HELL IS BUD BLACK DOING LETTING HOLLAND PITCH TO POLLOCK WITH FIRST BASE OPEN??? I know Descalso is on deck and had a HR already and is lefthanded … blah blah blah. Pollock is a far superior hitter! Come on, Bud, wake up! It’s Daniel Effin Descalso! If your ace closer vs. a career utility infielder isn’t the matchup you’re dreaming about, well, then, you haven’t been paying attention to this little sport we call Major League Baseball. Or… Read more »

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Five stars, Ag! 🙂 (I’ll join in the “great season” pleasantries later as well. 🙁 )

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Eight of their 17 hits came with two strikes, and most with pitches to waste. Three led to runs where one more strike ends the inning. The Rockies bats showed up, but with pitching like that there was no chance of winning. As Ag said, only Rusin came through admirably. Frustrating end to the season. Win or lose, I am not a fan of a one game series. It requires an entirely different strategy and substitution usage than you see all season.

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Also, we will never know, but my guess is that if the pitcher doesn’t get the triple and go bonkers afterwards, he doesn’t lose steam/concentration in the next inning and give up those back-to-back homers.

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Bob in WV, I agree: I hate the one-game “playoff” – really, it should be called the “play in” game like the 65th team thing in the NCAA tournament. Having said that … it’s actually a lot less fair to the first wild card team. The Dbacks pretty soundly put away the Rockies this year, and then could’ve lost it all in one night. And you’re right too about the situational pitching … big fat 2 strike pitches well within the zone, including that one to Archie Bradley. Add to that the failure (with the exception of Arenado’s HR) of… Read more »

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On a side note, Ag, while announcers all mention Arenado getting 130+ RBI’s each of the last three seasons, none have ever mentioned just how many more RBI’s he has over every other player during that time. If I remember right, he went into this season with 33 more over the past two seasons. That number must surely increase. Do you know of an easy way to determine this other than chasing down all the RBI leaders and adding up there totals over the last three seasons? there must be a database available that can quickly compile this.

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Executive Summary Initial Post Mortem (more to come later)….and as usual, in no particular order: 1. Keep an eye on Mike Redmond. Teams with Manager vacancies will want to interview him. Hope he stays. 2. I really liked the Chris Rusin/Pat Neshek back-to-back funky delivery/quick pitch, left/right, one-two punch. I hope we resign Neshek. 3. WW gave too many days off to key players. BB went to the other extreme and played the key guys so much they were worn down the last 6-8 weeks. Next year Pat Valaika should start 3 days a week, once at 2nd, once at… Read more »

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A quick note on the DBacks – Coming into the season, I had them pegged as about a 500 team, similar to us (remember, my Rockies prediction was 81-81). I saw a really good offense, good SP, bad defense, lack of depth, bad bull pen. So what happened? 1. Yasmany Tomas getting injured actually helped them, I believe. He was a defensive liability in the OF, but his bat kept him in the lineup. Well….they have plenty of offense. Getting David Peralta in the OF everyday helped them defensively, gave them a leadoff hitter, and he was/is no offensive slouch.… Read more »

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Five stars. We should buy this team and run it (more) right, guys and girls.

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Troy Renck did a little post-mortem (and a look forward) on one of the local radio sports shows this afternoon. The post-mortem part: – worst single decision: Neshek (and Lucroy) deciding to throw a slider to Archie Bradley, who (according to Renck) had shown no ability to catch up to Neshek’s sidearm fastball. Oh, and then failing to bury the slider in the dirt … The look forward part: – interesting: according to Renck, the scout contacts he has are not at all sold on Brendan Rodgers defensively at SS. He thought the most likely scenario is Story at SS,… Read more »

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“according to Renck, the scout contacts he has are not at all sold on Brendan Rodgers defensively at SS.” Just a reminder that the scouts said that Arenado was a defensive liability before he was brought up. Scouts make lots of mistakes such as saying that Trevor Story has just average speed. To me whether or not Wolters has power as a catcher is nowhere nearly as important as how he does calling games and how good a defensive catcher he is. Just because Murphy has power does not make him a good catcher, just remember Wilin Rosario. It is… Read more »

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Ag – I too don’t see B-Rod ultimately being a SS.

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(continued)
I don’t see Reynolds getting any 10 million buck deal. I think he could be brought back for half that. But Renck also mentioned the “where to play Desmond” issue. To me, it’s obvious: trade DJ, stick Desmond at SS.
– Holland: also sees him walking. Mentioned that 6.00+ ERA in the 2nd half. That’s why I fear Holland will exercise his option and come back. If he’s gone, Renck saw only Estevez and Senzatela as potential in-house closer candidates.

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Diamondbacks being investigated for possible cheating during win in wild card game.

https://roxpile.com/2017/10/05/colorado-rockies-wild-card-notes-mlb-investigating-diamondbacks/

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As feared – Mike Redmond to interview for Tigers Managerial position. All sorts of Redmond/Detroit ties, direct and indirect. IMO, he the front runner.

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Bob…..as you’ve picked up, I’ve been following this one closely. I’m a Gardenhire fan. But he doesn’t seem to be a fit for the rebuilding Motor City Kitties. Regardless…..this is good news for the Rockies.

IMO – Alex Cora to the Red Sox is a done deal.

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Rockies have nearly $54MM coming off the payroll from this year due to dead money (Reyes, etc.) and Cargo. Here are some off season speculations.

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/10/08/jeff-bridich-rockies-free-agent-decisions/

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Let me add….Eric Hosmer.

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From MLBTradeRumors.com

Projected 2018 arbitration salaries.

DJ LeMahieu (5.128) – $8.8MM
Charlie Blackmon (5.102) – $13.4MM
Chad Bettis (3.096) – $1.5MM
Chris Rusin (3.092) – $1.4MM
Zach Rosscup (3.021) – $600K

Arenado is already under contract for $17.75MM in 2018 and will have one more arbitration year in 2019.

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Bob – where does this put the Rox in terms of total salary commitment for 2018? 100M-ish?

By my ballpark math, we’ll have about 30-40M to play with, assuming a 130M-140M payroll. We’ll buy at least one RP @ +/- 5M. I think we’ll go with a veteran catcher (LuCroy or similar) @ +/- 10M. So that leaves us +/- 15-25M to chase Hosmer or similar.

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Here’s my first blush logic with Hosmer: 1. “only” 28….most of the other prime FAs are 30-32. 2. Premium defender at a non-premium position. I can see him playing well in the field until he’s 35. So he’s not a bad long-term risk. 3. Really solid BA/OBP guy….as opposed to a “swing for the fences” first mentality….which could be a good fit for the Rox. We need one of those. To me, this comes down to the Club’s assessment of Ryan McMahon. If they think he’s the next great thing….then play him (and don’t sign Hosmer or similar). However, if… Read more »

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Just my opinion, the quickest and cheapest way to improve the offense is to get a good hitting coach.

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Current payroll is about $172MM minus $54MM (Cargo, Reyes, Motte, Qualls, etc.) which leaves approximately $118MM before known additions. Desmond’s salary increases to $22MM for 2018, Arenado’s increases to $17.75MM for known increases of $14MM and $6MM for $138MM before any unknown arbitration raises. Suspected arbitration raises are approximately $12MM spread over 5 players bringing the total to $150MM before any possible additions or subtractions. They did really well on attendance this year which I am sure helped offset the $172 MM but is there any way to know just how much management is willing to spend this year? It… Read more »

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Of course if Holland opts out and the Rockies make him a qualifying offer, he can very easily turn that $15MM option into an $18MM one year contract by accepting the qualifying offer.

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I can’t remember where I read the $172MM figure but apparently it is wrong. According to spotrac.com the 2017 payroll was $146.7MM. Parra gets a $2MM raise for 2018. The non arb guys also get raises.

The total before any more additions or substractions will be around $127MM leaving around $20MM available to get back to the same payroll. Reyes is on the payroll for one more year at $4MM for the buy out of his option.

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This (146M) sounds better. I had in my head (from who knows where?) it was +/- 135M. Regardless….I think we can expect a 10% increase in 2018 based on this year’s success, attendance spike, etc. If true, that will give us more like 35M of available funds.

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Dare the Red Sox buyout Lovullo’s contract in ‘Zona and bring him back to Boston?

Does John Farrell being available hurt Redmond’s chances in Detroit?

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Tidbit from tonight’s Cleveland/Yankees game. According to the announcers there have only been three times that teams with 100 or more regular season wins that have gone on to win the world series during the wild card era. Two of those three times belong to the Yankees.

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4th is coming this year IMO. This tournament is setting up perfectly for the Dodgers.

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Yes the 4th is coming this year since both the Astros and the Dodgers won over 100 games during the regular season.

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Holland to decline $15MM player option. We will have to wait and see if the Rockies make him the $18.1MM qualifying offer to see if he also declines it.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/10/greg-holland-to-decline-player-option.html

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MLB sets qualifying offer at $17.4MM rather than the expected $18.1MM. Last year’s QO was $17.2MM.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/10/mlb-sets-2017-qualifying-offer-at-17-4mm.html

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Other pitching free agents of the Rockies are Tyler Chatwood, Jake McGee and Pat Neshek.

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I’m kind of hating how the playoffs are developing. All big money marquee franchises left except for the Astros: Yankees, Cubs, Dodgers, and sorry Roxnsox, I’m not much of a fan of the Red Sox anymore (“to defeat the evil empire we had to become the evil empire”). I guess I’ll pull for the Cubs based on how much I hate the Dodgers, but my biggest fear is a Dodgers-Yankees World Series. MLB would love that (probably not as much as Cubs-Yankees, but they’d still love it), but I think I’d have to sit that one out … … Meanwhile:… Read more »

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I was going to write my thoughts on the playoffs so far, but Ag mirrors my sentiments exactly. Only hope left are the Astros. Should the Dodgers win, does that help us next year with perhaps some complacency setting in for the Dodgers? It would be my only positive coming out of a Dodgers-Yanks series which I too would probably not bother to watch.

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GO! ASTROS! Win it for your city. And I hear you on the Red Sox. Especially since they’ve won it 3 times in 13 years, I can kind of take or leave them…i.e., the pressure is off:)

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Verlander: on his way to being the best trade deadline pickup EVER. The Astros held out as long as possible, then almost reluctantly pulled the trigger on that trade. Meanwhile: just flipped on Cubs-Dodgers. Without my mind being terribly focused (a few beers this afternoon, a glass of wine with a steak on the grill, you know how it goes) I see Kershaw on the mound. Immediately: damn, I forgot about that. I hope he’s not on tonight. Then … it dawns on me that it’s the Cubs, so my anti-Cubs instinct kicks in. Is there a way both teams… Read more »

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Two words for you Ag….Fred “Crime Dog” McGrif.

Shit…..that’s 4 words.

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As much as I detest the AL and the DH, I really dislike all the proposals moving the Rockies to the AL and I really have no use for the four 8 team divisions completely eliminating the AL and NL. None of the proposals have the Rockies in with their traditional rivals.

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Bob K. – I’d forgotten all about the AFL starting. Usually teams send a combination of top A ball type prospects to see how they’ll fare against better competition, plus guys who are running out of time in the organization (get added to the 40 man roster or move along to some other team). This year the Rockies sent only one of the “good prospect” type – Almonte, a good but not great pitching prospect. The rest of the roster is purely of the “is he worth using a 40 man roster spot on” types. I guess that’s because we’ve… Read more »

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Dusty Baker out in Washington.

The whole Front Office situation in Washington wreaks of dysfunction – even though the team is ridiculously good.

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Dusty Baker has always been a great manager when it comes to getting wins during the regular season but has always failed miserably when it comes to the post season.

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Poor Dusty. I’ll admit it – I was one of those metrics loving guys who ridiculed Dusty’s old school tactics, but he deserved to go out in a better way than that Nats collapse. And it really didn’t have anything to do with his managing. By all accounts a fine and decent man. Carp – good memory on the Fred McGriff Atlanta acquisition. The Fox Sports guys also brought up the other classic late season acquisition, Doyle Alexander (9-0 down the stretch for the Tigers) for John Smoltz. But Verlander’s on track after tonight, particularly if they win and he… Read more »

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I grew up in the South (Asheville, NC). Back then the Braves (and Cubs) were the only baseball on TV. Everyday. Every game. So I was force fed Braves, hence McGriff being traded is etched in my memory. Unlike Verlander, McGriff wasn’t a rental.

Ironically, even back in 1993, it was the Padres having the fire sale. They had also traded Gary Sheffield (to the Marlins) a couple of weeks prior.

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Carp, Verlander’s got 3 years left on his contract, hence the Astros’ reluctance to pull the trigger on that trade. I know he never would’ve accepted a trade to Colorado, but think about it … what if we had acquired him? For one thing, we’d have advanced to the NLDS, where we certainly would’ve put up a better fight than the Dbacks did. I’m not saying that would’ve been wise, but for the Astros right now it was the right move.

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Geez……I just assumed (incorrectly) he was nearing the end of that mega-deal. 10 year deal, 219M. So the ‘Stros will owe him a little north of 20M per season, for the next two seasons. I can see that going either way (meaning he’ll be solid….or he’ll be in the tank). Hell…….the King of power pitchers (Nolan Ryan – Astro) was throwing gas late into a long, long career. I agree Ag….he would have helped us. But I think JD Martinez would have helped more.

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A few years back the Dodgers hired Andrew Friedman (from Rays), and then Farhan Zaidi – Billy Beane protege (from A’s). I remember commenting at the time, on this site, those were great moves. My logic behind the comment is that both came from successful low budget models – so they knew how to develop players and find FA “nuggets,” and now also had access to big money. Fast forward to now and look at the Dodgers from 30,000 feet: 1. GREAT development of Chris Taylor and Jacob Turner….and Austin Barnes appears next in line. 2. Shrewd amateur drafting of… Read more »

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Hey guys and girls – did anybody catch the Vin Scully “first pitch” intro tonight? Fantastic. Almost makes me feel warmly toward the Dodgers:) Certainly continues my respect for and enjoyment of Vin.

I think we need a new thread called “Postseason Musings Pre-Hot Stove” (or some such), and I tried to create one, but somewhere along the line my permissions were revoked. One of you bosses here, can you do it?

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Time to start a go-fund-me “Bring Joe Girardi back to Colorado as Rockies hitting Coach.” I’ll contribute $100.

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As far as I know Girardi has never been a hitting coach.

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So he’s better than what we have now, right?

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Who knows? I would rather see them bring Blake Doyle back than an unknown.

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Not Rockies related but the Cardinals are going to hire Mike Maddux as their new pitching coach.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/10/cardinals-to-name-mike-maddux-pitching-coach.html

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I’m a huge Maddux fan. This will make the Cardinals better – we don’t need that!

They really need to go out and acquire some offense though.

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Ex Rockie Matt Herges named bullpen coach for Giants among many other changes.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/10/giants-announce-coaching-staff-changes.html

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Rating the free agent 1st basemen. The defensive metrics ranking Reynolds in the negative category are in my opinion not worth the paper they are printed on. Having watched Reynolds and how often he made great defensive plays at first base says to me that those defensive metrics are bull.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/10/sorting-the-skills-of-the-best-free-agent-first-basemen.html

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Thanks for the link Bob….good read. It’s no secret I’m a Hosmer fan. I think he’d be a great fit for the Rox. But apparently the Red Sox really like him, and of course they have deep pockets. A name on that list that intrigues me a little bit as a “post-hype” guy is Yonder Alonso. He’s coming off a nice year. Still relatively young (older than Hosmer, significantly younger than Reynolds – I think he’s 30). But…..defensive metrics (right or wrong) no better than Reynolds. He needs to be platooned…..also. In my mind….the most telling offseason “move” the Rox… Read more »

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Arenado wins third straight Fielding Bible award as best fielding 3rd baseman in MLB. DJ wins his first Fielding Bible award as best fielding MLB 2nd baseman.

http://m.rockies.mlb.com/news/article/260157324/arenado-lemahieu-win-fielding-bible-awards/

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Rockies Free Agents

Tyler Chatwood
Greg Holland (Player option to be declined)
Jake McGee
Pat Neshek
Ryan Hannigan
Jonathan Lucroy
Alexi Amarista ( 2018 team option)
Mark Reynolds
Carlos Gonzalez

One of their spots will go to Jairo Diaz who is currently on the 60 day DL.

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From MLB Trade Rumors: Key upcoming dates ” Nov. 2: Commencement of a five-day, exclusive negotiation window that teams have with their own free agents. (Also, MLBTR’s Top 50 Free Agent rankings with predictions!) Nov. 4: Deadline for players with opt-out clauses to exercise those provisions. Nov. 6: The deadline for MLB clubs to formally issue one-year qualifying offers (valued at $17.4MM this offseason, as reported by MLBTR) to free agents is 5:00pm ET. Those players will have 10 days to weigh the offers and can negotiate with other clubs during that 10-day window. After that 5pm deadline, all free… Read more »